Does the "Northeast Corridor" include Portland (ME), Richmond and Norfolk/Virginia Beach? (costs, moving)
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It seems like I'm not alone here in relating this discussion to trains. The northeast corridor AMTRAK line is Boston-DC which is the core of the region. Many trains also go down to Newport News VA, and have been doing so for many years. The first time I went to DC was on one of those trains almost 20 years ago and that line was running to Newport News final stop.
Still, I believe the tracks do change ownership after DC? Hampton Roads metro is more "northeast corridor" to me than Richmond, even though they are south of Richmond. Richmond isn't a straight shot from DC to Newport it's a detour. Richmond is it's own thing imo. Portland definitely is it's own thing. It would be kinda like randomly throwing Albany into the Northeast Corridor just because
NEC starts for me at Fredericksburg, once north of there you're in Suburban DC/Stafford County and it's also where commuter rail starts for the larger DC area.
Northern tip is less clear but once out of commuting range in Boston generally feel out ofit.
The DC suburbs sprawl south into Fredericksburg, which is just 50 miles north of Richmond on the I-95 corridor. Expansion is inevitable further south so if looking ahead (or capable), Richmond should be considered part of the NEC.
"Northeast Corridor" is not an official region. It's referring to the Amtrak route. Portland is the only one of these cities in the Northeast, so I would choose it out of the 3. But in terms of the Amtrak route that this unofficial region represents, none of these is part of that.
The DC suburbs sprawl south into Fredericksburg, which is just 50 miles north of Richmond on the I-95 corridor. Expansion is inevitable further south so if looking ahead (or capable), Richmond should be considered part of the NEC.
Spotsylvania's growth slowed dramatically in the 2010s, and was even slower than Stafford and Prince William's to the north. Caroline County, south of Spotsylvania, grew even more slowly. Metro DC is not expanding outwards like it used to.
Right, and my point is that Caroline County is not benefitting from DC Metro sprawl.
Spotsylvania grew 14%, down from 35% the previous decade. and slower than Stafford to its north at 19%, and the same as close in City of Alexandria at 14%. Point is the outward development of the DC area has slowed dramatically, which means metro Richmond is in no danger of becoming part of the NEC.
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Right, and my point is that Caroline County is not benefitting from DC Metro sprawl.
Spotsylvania grew 14%, down from 35% the previous decade. and slower than Stafford to its north at 19%, and the same as close in City of Alexandria at 14%. Point is the outward development of the DC area has slowed dramatically, which means metro Richmond is in no danger of becoming part of the NEC.
No Richmond isn't the NEC, but it is closest to the corridor based on the places in this comparison. There's also some tug and pull going on because Caroline is no longer a part of Richmond's MSA I believe, even though it didn't join DC's. Development will continue to happen in between over time, but not all that rapidly. Ironically, pre-pandemic I worked with a guy who commuted from Caroline County all the way to Arlington 3/5 times a week. He normally balanced the schedule by working super early shifts and leaving home at 3:30 am.
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whatever county Manchester, NH is in is the northern end. Manchester, NH is 53 miles Northwest of Boston. It is the last city of over 100k north of Massachusetts
Portland Maine is 95 miles from Manchester. It is 112 miles northeast of Boston. Minimal development between Manch and Portland.
No Richmond isn't the NEC, but it is closest to the corridor based on the places in this comparison. There's also some tug and pull going on because Caroline is no longer a part of Richmond's MSA I believe, even though it didn't join DC's. Development will continue to happen in between over time, but not all that rapidly. Ironically, pre-pandemic I worked with a guy who commuted from Caroline County all the way to Arlington 3/5 times a week. He normally balanced the schedule by working super early shifts and leaving home at 3:30 am.
I agree with this. None of them are functionally part of the Bos-Was corridor, but if I was forced to pick I'd say Richmond is "closest". There's not enough of an economic connection between Portland and Boston / northern burbs to justify including it. It is fairly "developed" up I-95 on that route (probably moreso than DC-Richmond, honestly), but most of that is due to these being fairly wealthy coastal vacation/tourist areas.
Tidewater is not at all connected imo. Feels very different than Bos-Wash.
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