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STL has a vibrant cultural scene, from food, to music, to highbrow culture. Who can name the great musicians and artists from this region, and what genres have they influenced? No, rap does not get a vowel.
Can I see a show of hands from the bashers that have spent time from there, other than passing through on the interstate or the airport?
some cities have to be "nasty". and of course 100 percent of any city isn't bad. but if not baltimore, then where? since 1960, who's been in the most trouble from all angles?
1. detroit
2. new orleans
3. st. louis
4. baltimore
5. washington
So you think Detroit, NO, STL, Bmore, and DC are all nasty cities. So these cities are part of the 'some cities (that) have to be "Nasty"'? No. I have doubts you've spend much time in these cities because i found that they're all nice (even detroits got more upsides than you think). Well what would you say if i threw in all the other cities whose been troubled, Cleveland, Cinncy, Buffalo, Milwaukee, Philly, Wilmington etc etc etc. Are these also nasty cities to you?
Show me a city that does not have problems, and I will show you a deceitful Mayor and a City council full of liars!
I just do not understand why folks think that cities should not have any problems, is that not rather oxymoronic?
some cities have to be "nasty". and of course 100 percent of any city isn't bad. but if not baltimore, then where? since 1960, who's been in the most trouble from all angles?
1. detroit
2. new orleans
3. st. louis
4. baltimore
5. washington
Go to Google and check out some pics of "nasty" St. Louis, such as the Arch, the Downtown Loft buildings, or Busch Stadium. How about some "nasty" pics of Forest Park, or the Painted Ladies rowhouses in Lafayette Square. Check out "nasty" Washington University, and the entirely "nasty" restaurants on The Hill. Sure, some areas of St. Louis have burned out buildings and crime, but describing the city as "nasty" is a terrible blanket statement.
I'm sure you can find "nasty" pics of the other cities as well.
Pick your words wisely, please. These cities may be neglected, and they have some blight, but calling them "nasty" is a bit harsh. Any city has neglected areas and blight. Are all major cities "nasty"?
Also, how many of those cities have you been to? You may have been to all of them, but I'm just curious.
So you think Detroit, NO, STL, Bmore, and DC are all nasty cities. So these cities are part of the 'some cities (that) have to be "Nasty"'? No. I have doubts you've spend much time in these cities because i found that they're all nice (even detroits got more upsides than you think). Well what would you say if i threw in all the other cities whose been troubled, Cleveland, Cinncy, Buffalo, Milwaukee, Philly, Wilmington etc etc etc. Are these also nasty cities to you?
this is too funny. theseToGo11 was actually the one who called bmore nasty, but i'm getting all the backlash.
my point is that out of all the cities in this country and all of the civic failures we have, there has to be some places worse than others. no city is all bad, and i think "nasty city" indicates a range of undesirable conditions that are pervasive throughout the majority of the residential areas, not downtown monuments and high priced gentrification.
i wasn't calling those five "nasty". i was giving my opinion on some of our most troubled cities. and yes, cleveland, philly, cincinnati and buffalo fit the bill as well. throw in oakland and that's my top ten in no order.
i've been to detroit, st. louis, cleveland, cincinnati and washington of those ten. but i've studied the institutional problems of philly, oakland and new orleans extensively, and i'm due in philly this summer. all of those cities i've visited are depressing beyond words, and have issues in ways and areas more successful cities don't have nearly as bad.
to name a few,
downtown slums in cincinnati
segregation in st. louis
washington IS chocolate city
detroit's utilities and water
cleveland's financial distress
I'd say that the cities which are comparable to St. Louis are Cincinnati, Cleveland, Detroit, Milwaukee, Pittsburgh, and Baltimore. Maybe D.C., but D.C. is a truly unique cities.
I would say that Richmond and St. Louis share similarities.
A large part of the two cities look very similar. St. Louis has suffered a MUCH greater population decline (losing more than half of its population). However, racial demographics of the cities are similar, and the surrounding suburban areas have similar demographics.
The main difference in the Richmond is a Southern city, and St. Louis is a Midwestern city.
I would say that Richmond and St. Louis share similarities.
A large part of the two cities look very similar. St. Louis has suffered a MUCH greater population decline (losing more than half of its population). However, racial demographics of the cities are similar, and the surrounding suburban areas have similar demographics.
The main difference in the Richmond is a Southern city, and St. Louis is a Midwestern city.
Ok, I would love to see some pix, I am so not seeing anything similar in appearance. I hope you are not speaking of the blighted part of STL......Richmond had to be built basically from the ground up after the late unpleasantness, so its oldest parts are since the war........
It has a little baltimore, a little philly, a little new orleans, a little chicago, a little memphis, a little detroit, and a little louisville in it.
I'd modify that to say it has a lot of Chicago and a lot of Detroit in it. It's definitely a Midwestern city. To say it has an equal amount in common with Louisville and Memphis is an overstatement to say the least. But I guess if you haven't lived here, you're entitled to your opinion. Having been to all the aforementioned cities, I know for certain it has a lot more in common with Chicago, Detroit, and Baltimore than new orleans, memphis, and louisville.
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