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Old 03-16-2022, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Yeah parts of the City of Hyattsville and parts of Riverdale are the only areas that can be considered walkable IMO. you do have some small towns that border those two areas that are semi-walkable plus Capital Heights proper (the area between capital heights and Largo have Capital Heights address but are unincorporated). There are other areas that are developing that may become much more walkable which is a plus.

I agree with you, Black people generally prefer more suburban areas. It would be nice to have a truly urban area in Prince George's. If the Largo area actually redevelops as planned and that entertainment district is built by Fedex Field (or whatever replaces it) then that would be huge. Particularly with sports betting and if nightlife can concentrated there.
You're talking like Cottage City, right? Ialways forget Hyattsville is in PG I reliably call it MoCo because it's that different in feel.

Yea that FedEx field area has some nice homes I almost moved into a town home right there.But it should 100% be redeveloped for something closer. It could use a (smaller) "Patriot Place" model easily. https://images.app.goo.gl/kYkVw2gfR192gXcz5 Especially since it already has housing. DC area mainstays like Bar Louie and now Tropical Smoothie thrive in Patriot Place.
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Old 03-16-2022, 10:32 AM
 
Location: D.C. / I-95
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You're talking like Cottage City, right? Ialways forget Hyattsville is in PG I reliably call it MoCo because it's that different in feel.

Yea that FedEx field area has some nice homes I almost moved into a town home right there.But it should 100% be redeveloped for something closer. It could use a (smaller) "Patriot Place" model easily. https://images.app.goo.gl/kYkVw2gfR192gXcz5 Especially since it already has housing. DC area mainstays like Bar Louie and now Tropical Smoothie thrive in Patriot Place.
Yeah I'm talking Cottage City, Brentwood, Mt. Ranier, and North Brentwood. All around Rhode Island Ave/Route 1. Very compact within walking distance to Hyattsville and Northeast DC. There's a recently opened food hall on Rhode Island Ave and the area is pretty diverse, with a Hispanic majority. The housing supply is quite low however.

I could definitely see something like the Patriot Place there (it looks nice, i haven't been over there before. The only area of New England I;ve been to are Connecticut, Boston and the immediately surrounding cities and Providence)

There is so much land to develop in that area, from Landover to Largo to Capital Heights. Central Ave is criminally underdeveloped. Landover Mall is just sitting there. Most of the Metro stations in Prince George's have some town homes near by but that's it.

EDIT: those small towns and Hyattsville are apart of the Gateway Art District http://mygatewayarts.org/
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Old 03-16-2022, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Yeah I'm talking Cottage City, Brentwood, Mt. Ranier, and North Brentwood. All around Rhode Island Ave/Route 1. Very compact within walking distance to Hyattsville and Northeast DC. There's a recently opened food hall on Rhode Island Ave and the area is pretty diverse, with a Hispanic majority. The housing supply is quite low however.

I could definitely see something like the Patriot Place there (it looks nice, i haven't been over there before. The only area of New England I;ve been to are Connecticut, Boston and the immediately surrounding cities and Providence)

There is so much land to develop in that area, from Landover to Largo to Capital Heights. Central Ave is criminally underdeveloped. Landover Mall is just sitting there. Most of the Metro stations in Prince George's have some town homes near by but that's it.

EDIT: those small towns and Hyattsville are apart of the Gateway Art District Gateway Arts District of Prince George's County
Patriot Place is solid, with some bars, movie theatre, comedy shows, mid-tier chain retailers, no nightlife. Palatable for the suburban audience but not boring. A smaller and more compact version would be a Legacy Place in Dedham MA just outside of Boston. That size could also do well at FedEx but it wouldn't compass the stadium the area like I would like to see. Whoever designed the gallery place should be contacted for FedEx Field.

https://legacyplace.com/ https://legacyplace.com/explore/

I'm very familiar with Rhode Island Ave and Rhode Island Row and all those places. One of my favorite stretches of DC tbh- aside from H Street and Brightwood down to Petworth along Georgia Ave. That's where I first went to Caroline's Kitchen (I also went right before the one in BLVD closed in Largo...) one of my favorite local chains.

That food hall looks just like this one in the Parkvile neighborhood of Hartford: https://parkvillemarket.com/

I was there back when this was a makeshift warehouse nightclub spinning Latin music. Similar demographics to the Rhode Island Ave area alebit lower income because..Hartford . But it draws some people form more Affluent West Hartford. First Food Hall in CT: https://parkvillemarket.com/
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Old 03-16-2022, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Houston(Screwston),TX
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Yeah parts of the City of Hyattsville and parts of Riverdale are the only areas that can be considered walkable IMO. you do have some small towns that border those two areas that are semi-walkable plus Capital Heights proper (the area between capital heights and Largo have Capital Heights address but are unincorporated). There are other areas that are developing that may become much more walkable which is a plus.

I agree with you, Black people generally prefer more suburban areas. It would be nice to have a truly urban area in Prince George's. If the Largo area actually redevelops as planned and that entertainment district is built by Fedex Field (or whatever replaces it) then that would be huge. Particularly with sports betting and if nightlife can concentrated there.
I've been real interested in considering accepting a job offer in Capital Heights and moving to this stretch of PG County. One of my main concerns is how suburban is that stretch from Capital Heights to Largo? The fact that they have some metro stations sound like it's suburban but possibly more "urban" than the average suburb in Houston(where I stay in now)/ Atlanta(where I use to stay)/ Dallas(where I thought about moving to). But if it's only marginally different than either one of those than maybe it's not worth the move. I don't how familiar you are with any of those burbs. And even than I think those 3 have some marginal differences between the 3.

Hyattsville sounds nice and what I would be more into but I don't want to be too far away from the job site if I were to accept this job offer.
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Old 03-16-2022, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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It’s pretty suburban yea. Very suburban. Capitol Heights is hood I wouldn’t want to live there. One of the saddest parts of the DMV.

The thing is you’re very close to DC and that’s gonna be way more urban than those other cities. But those suburbs have a sunbelt feel to them for sure.

Maybe try finding a newer development right on a metro. I haven’t been to largo in like 3 years so I can’t help much more than that. Try the Villages at Morgan Metro. I think you’d like that. It’s geographically in between Cap Heights and Largo and as the name states close to the Metro.
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Old 03-16-2022, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Houston(Screwston),TX
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It’s pretty suburban yea. Very suburban. Capitol Heights is hood I wouldn’t want to live there. One of the saddest parts of the DMV.

The thing is you’re very close to DC and that’s gonna be way more urban than those other cities. But those suburbs have a sunbelt feel to them for sure.

Maybe try finding a newer development right on a metro. I haven’t been to largo in like 3 years so I can’t help much more than that. Try the Villages at Morgan Metro. I think you’d like that. It’s geographically in between Cap Heights and Largo and as the name states close to the Metro.
Yeah I was looking at some homes in Capitol Heights and right off the bat red flags instantly jumped out to me. No wonder it's one of the more affordable areas of DMV. But Imma check out Morgan Metro. I'm not knowledgeable at all on how DMV is structured. So I appreciate that! I looked into places like Silver Springs in Mogo county but it's more expensive and a greater distance from the job site.
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Old 03-16-2022, 02:11 PM
 
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Yeah I was looking at some homes in Capitol Heights and right off the bat red flags instantly jumped out to me. No wonder it's one of the more affordable areas of DMV. But Imma check out Morgan Metro. I'm not knowledgeable at all on how DMV is structured. So I appreciate that! I looked into places like Silver Springs in Mogo county but it's more expensive and a greater distance from the job site.
I don't know why but I audibly laughed. I'm wondering how red flags jumped out from just looking at the homes online- I feel you but lol.. Its the oldest part of PG and possibly the oldest Maryland suburb of DC. Think it was founded in 1911. It's pretty janky- I've been all over Cap Heights.

Summerfield at the Metro: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8960...7i13312!8i6656

Villages at Morgan Metro (I almost moved here): https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8995...7i16384!8i8192

From the looks of what I've seen in Houston Streetviews, the biggest difference is many more of the homes in "inner PG" are attached as opposed to detached. But the road network and basics seem similar. I never knew places like this even existed growing up. When I first saw these types of subdivisions in Florida and Atlanta I honestly thought they were resorts. Which I think is a good thing?
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Old 03-17-2022, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Houston(Screwston),TX
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I don't know why but I audibly laughed. I'm wondering how red flags jumped out from just looking at the homes online- I feel you but lol.. Its the oldest part of PG and possibly the oldest Maryland suburb of DC. Think it was founded in 1911. It's pretty janky- I've been all over Cap Heights.

Summerfield at the Metro: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8960...7i13312!8i6656

Villages at Morgan Metro (I almost moved here): https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8995...7i16384!8i8192

From the looks of what I've seen in Houston Streetviews, the biggest difference is many more of the homes in "inner PG" are attached as opposed to detached. But the road network and basics seem similar. I never knew places like this even existed growing up. When I first saw these types of subdivisions in Florida and Atlanta I honestly thought they were resorts. Which I think is a good thing?
Lol, I noticed a couple of houses for sale had boarded up windows, front yards didn't look to be in the best shape, metal gates, an abundance of older smaller modest homes. Quite a few affordable homes for being right next to D.C. I thought that was interesting. Than I looked around some of the homes for sale with google view and started getting more confirmation that yeah I believe I know what kind of city Capitol Heights is. Yep I'm seeing more "beware of dog signs" on fences. Seeing multiple broke down cars in people's yards. Think I might have even saw a loose dog or 2 on one of those google map images. LOL

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8708...7i16384!8i8192

Like this area looks like a typical working class community. Nothing wrong with that. I grew up in a working class community. Actually doesn't look bad but I can tell just like a lot of older working class predominately Black communities, that the hood areas are in close proximity with those older working class communities. So you won't be too far from liquor stores/ check cashing loan spots, pawn shops,etc.

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8853...7i16384!8i8192

Yep I know that look.

As far as Hyattsville, I was looking on that Villages at Morgan Metro google street view and went a little further away from that community and in certain parts of Hyattsville it reminds me a lot of certain parts of Atlanta's suburbs. Hell this street right here reminds me of somewhere in East Texas where I grew up at.

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8897...7i13312!8i6656

This could pass for a lot of areas in the south. I knew PG County had some suburban landscapes but judging from these google street views it's a lot more rural/burb/country looking than I expected. Of course I notice the plethora of townhomes too and Capitol Heights looks to be more consistently dense but it does give me some southern vibes.
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Old 03-17-2022, 08:07 AM
 
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Lol, I noticed a couple of houses for sale had boarded up windows, front yards didn't look to be in the best shape, metal gates, an abundance of older smaller modest homes. Quite a few affordable homes for being right next to D.C. I thought that was interesting. Than I looked around some of the homes for sale with google view and started getting more confirmation that yeah I believe I know what kind of city Capitol Heights is. Yep I'm seeing more "beware of dog signs" on fences. Seeing multiple broke down cars in people's yards. Think I might have even saw a loose dog or 2 on one of those google map images. LOL

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8708...7i16384!8i8192

Like this area looks like a typical working class community. Nothing wrong with that. I grew up in a working class community. Actually doesn't look bad but I can tell just like a lot of older working class predominately Black communities, that the hood areas are in close proximity with those older working class communities. So you won't be too far from liquor stores/ check cashing loan spots, pawn shops,etc.

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8853...7i16384!8i8192

Yep I know that look.

As far as Hyattsville, I was looking on that Villages at Morgan Metro google street view and went a little further away from that community and in certain parts of Hyattsville it reminds me a lot of certain parts of Atlanta's suburbs. Hell this street right here reminds me of somewhere in East Texas where I grew up at.

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8897...7i13312!8i6656

This could pass for a lot of areas in the south. I knew PG County had some suburban landscapes but judging from these google street views it's a lot more rural/burb/country looking than I expected. Of course I notice the plethora of townhomes too and Capitol Heights looks to be more consistently dense but it does give me some southern vibes.
Yea naw the part of Cap Heights you showed me is pretty solid compared to some of the nooks and crannies Ive seen. It ain't terrible of course but its not worth a move from where your comfortable.

Thats because it IS the South lol. I keep saying...C-D disagrees but especially compared to the actual northeast. PG is ultra suburban and the urbanite in me was done after 11 months. Dont even get me started on how southern a place like Fort Washington, Indian head or Brandywine is!!

Yes it has many northenr influences but demography, the census, chains, and development/governance all indicates its still the South. I think the conversaitonon CD would lead people to belive that DCs urbanism is all over the area and that DC is very veyr simialr to northeastern cities when it has major fundamental differences in terms of period of development, cleanlinesss, its downtown, its a district-not a city, demography. Its certainly the least southenr part of the south but the south nonetheless. you rightfully didnt include it in "best Norheast city for..."

FW:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.7202...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.7257...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.7839...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.7963...7i13312!8i6656 <--- this is maybe 5 mile outside DC city limits....

Brandywine:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6902...7i16384!8i8192

Upper Marlboro:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.7877...7i16384!8i8192

Camp Springs:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.7946...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.7935...7i13312!8i6656

How Maryland became "not the South" is questionable for me. All of this is literally within 7/8miles of Washington DC. All of it.
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Old 03-17-2022, 09:44 AM
 
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Lol, I noticed a couple of houses for sale had boarded up windows, front yards didn't look to be in the best shape, metal gates, an abundance of older smaller modest homes. Quite a few affordable homes for being right next to D.C. I thought that was interesting. Than I looked around some of the homes for sale with google view and started getting more confirmation that yeah I believe I know what kind of city Capitol Heights is. Yep I'm seeing more "beware of dog signs" on fences. Seeing multiple broke down cars in people's yards. Think I might have even saw a loose dog or 2 on one of those google map images. LOL

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8708...7i16384!8i8192

Like this area looks like a typical working class community. Nothing wrong with that. I grew up in a working class community. Actually doesn't look bad but I can tell just like a lot of older working class predominately Black communities, that the hood areas are in close proximity with those older working class communities. So you won't be too far from liquor stores/ check cashing loan spots, pawn shops,etc.

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8853...7i16384!8i8192

Yep I know that look.

As far as Hyattsville, I was looking on that Villages at Morgan Metro google street view and went a little further away from that community and in certain parts of Hyattsville it reminds me a lot of certain parts of Atlanta's suburbs. Hell this street right here reminds me of somewhere in East Texas where I grew up at.

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8897...7i13312!8i6656

This could pass for a lot of areas in the south. I knew PG County had some suburban landscapes but judging from these google street views it's a lot more rural/burb/country looking than I expected. Of course I notice the plethora of townhomes too and Capitol Heights looks to be more consistently dense but it does give me some southern vibes.
Just curious, but what kind of neighborhood would fit what you are looking for in terms of a preferred neighborhood/community in terms of built environment/look?
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