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Old 01-11-2022, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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it is not the same as living in USA and being American, which is not a desirable thing to Canadians.
Except more Canadians immigrate to the US than the other way around. Canada's low wage/awful weather/high housing cost/inferiority complex/PITA-French-who-don't-want-to-be-Canadian doesn't offer much to people who want to live in a real country.

So grateful to be an American, sorry you missed out.

 
Old 01-11-2022, 08:49 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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I think what you mentioned with parts of upstate New York becoming semi-officially part of the Golden Horseshoe and the bit of Washington state close to the border and near Vancouver are possible in the future, but there's nnot much from then on out as the other major Canadian cities and their suburbs / exurbs are either not all that close to the border yet (like Ottawa, Calgary, Edmonton), are the more minor / smaller city (Windsor to Detroit), or are strongly French-Canadian (Montreal) and have significant differences.

I do think getting that Golden Horseshoe would be sweet. I understand that there's been some general acknowledgment that some kind of pre-clearance system for rail routes crossing the border is supported by both countries, but they'd need to work out those kinds. I think that would play a pretty large part in stronger economic integration between the two and a frequent and fast "Horseshoe" or "Golden Horseshoe" train service going from Rochester to Oshawa via Buffalo, Hamilton, and Toronto would be pretty fantastic.
 
Old 01-11-2022, 08:49 PM
 
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The reason Canadian cities grow is they attract immigrants who can't get into the US. Additionally, they don't have to compete with warm weather cities elsewhere. Rochester, Buffalo etc lose people to Texas, Arizona, Florida, etc. While many people from Toronto move to warm parts of the US, not as many do as would be possible if they didn't have to deal with immigration.

NY State and Michigan aren't going to benefit much from any of this even if it occurs right across the border. In Michigan's case, it's also good to remember that Metro Windsor is 1/10th the size of Metro Detroit. And in terms of the impact on WA state, metro Vancouver BC is about the same size as metro Portland on its other border. Smaller cities get noticed in Canada because it's a much smaller country.
 
Old 01-11-2022, 10:35 PM
 
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Jeebus. I just looked up mortgage as a percentage of income. Over 60% in Toronto and Vancouver is perhaps the most insane thing I’ve ever seen. Honolulu, NYC, and California are the only places in the high 30% here in the US. The old rule is pay no more than 28%.
 
Old 01-12-2022, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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Vancouver makes Seattle look super affordable. I have family up there and let me tell you it's no fun paying higher than Seattle home prices on half the income and 40% more taxes for the same job.

Canada has a real affordability problem that is way worse than the US.
 
Old 01-12-2022, 09:01 AM
 
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This thread has gone off topic and has become fodder for certain returning trolls. Time to shut it down.
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