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I don’t want to leave , I mean A part of me is connected to living here I just cannot afford it my income is too low and I have a family to take care of
I'm curious about your job. You're a barber. I believe in CA barbers need to be licensed, and I assume you have that license. Have you looked into the licensing requirements in other states? Is that what you want to do for the rest of your life? If not, do you have a degree of any sort, are you open to obtaining one?
I suspect that barber incomes are not great, but I also suspect that they're better in Southern California than in places like Utah or Arizona as most SMB-provided services like that tend to have COL-adjusted prices and wages. So I have this hunch that your problem really is that the job you've chosen isn't sufficient to raise a family *anywhere* in this country.
I live in Minnesota and I would consider our growing season to be long enough. Most of Colorado is even warmer than us.
OP is in San Clemente which is growing zone 10, one of the longest growing seasons in the US. Colorado is mostly zone 5/6 which is comparatively short.
I don't want to seem nosy, but I am curious what barbers make. When I used to take my dad to a barber in Long Beach (he's close to 90! - the barber, that is) the fee was $20, and my dad would tip him 5 bucks. He had to stop going because he moved 15 miles away and no longer drives. That 90 yr old barber had a lot of clients, I'd have to call ahead to make an appointment.
I guess there is a chair fee, like in beauty salons. I would think that if a barber had, say, 15-20 clients a day, 5 days a week, they could made a decent living.
OP is in San Clemente which is growing zone 10, one of the longest growing seasons in the US. Colorado is mostly zone 5/6 which is comparatively short.
Well they mentioned they want somewhere with seasons. You can't have both a super long growing season, while also having 4 distinct seasons. Anywhere with seasons is going to have at the bare minimum 3-4 months of dormancy. That's kinda how "winter" works.
Idk about Colorado but here, the growing season encompasses roughly the second half of April til the end of October. To me that's a very long period of time and within that period, a good portion of it is great for fruit and vegetable farming.
Gold Shaw Farm's Morgan Gold (his wife, actually) does just fine in northern Vermont growing a huge garden of organic vegetables. That's a very short growing season. (Almost incomprehensable to this L.A. woman ) They're from the East Coast so they don't mind the winters as much as someone else might.
PS4Evr... If you are going to move... what have you learned in the six months this thread has been alive? I hope this isn't your only source of moving information. Have you actually found any areas you are considering base on your research? Is back to your family your likely choice in Upstate New York? Are there other options? Have you been able to visit anywhere you are considering?
There are a lot of cheaper areas in this country when compared to SO CAL. Let us know what you've done to find that next place in life. I think most people are happy to provide helpful advice. You need to provide as much info as you can to help us help you.
Well they mentioned they want somewhere with seasons. You can't have both a super long growing season, while also having 4 distinct seasons. Anywhere with seasons is going to have at the bare minimum 3-4 months of dormancy. That's kinda how "winter" works.
Idk about Colorado but here, the growing season encompasses roughly the second half of April til the end of October. To me that's a very long period of time and within that period, a good portion of it is great for fruit and vegetable farming.
Denver's last average freeze is around Mother's Day. Higher elevations in the mountains are even later. Gardening is a challenge here because you pretty much have to start your plants indoors, and after you move them outdoors they could get obliterated by hail in May and June.
Denver's last average freeze is around Mother's Day. Higher elevations in the mountains are even later. Gardening is a challenge here because you pretty much have to start your plants indoors, and after you move them outdoors they could get obliterated by hail in May and June.
Boise is similar, except we don't have any hail of significance. Once or twice a year we get pea or smaller hailstorms. But yes, last freeze in late May, first freeze anywhere from late Sept to early Oct. Still my corn is waist high, squash and tomato's have flowers, and the first sunflower bloomed this week. That is all we're growing this year. OP, you may want to look at Boise and its surrounding suburbs/towns. Lots of flights daily to SO CAL, and the weather isn't too extreme.
PS4Evr... If you are going to move... what have you learned in the six months this thread has been alive? I hope this isn't your only source of moving information. Have you actually found any areas you are considering base on your research? Is back to your family your likely choice in Upstate New York? Are there other options? Have you been able to visit anywhere you are considering?
There are a lot of cheaper areas in this country when compared to SO CAL. Let us know what you've done to find that next place in life. I think most people are happy to provide helpful advice. You need to provide as much info as you can to help us help you.
Good Luck
I haven’t gotten very far. I’m still in the same position basically, I have a really hard time deciding and socal is too comfortable. I really want to get out of here still, most people I know are paying over 3000 a month just to rent a 2 br apartment, they’ll never own it or save any money! I don’t want that to be me. Luckily right now I don’t have to pay rent and I have the luxury to take my time and decide. I’ve opened my options to Maine as well.
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) They're from the East Coast so they don't mind the winters as much as someone else might.
