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Old 03-03-2022, 02:11 AM
 
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I mean think about it, if your new to a country, would you want to even come to some of the most expensive areas in world? Even forget about real estate, just buying things and getting around can get pricey. (Although I do get it there are opportunities in those areas and might be members of that immigrant community already in place.)


And then when you visit places like Houston, Dallas, etc. a lot more diverse than you would think. It seems like there a lot more "beacons" out there so to speak. I know if I'm coming to a new country I'd want something cheaper, and work my way up to the expensive city.
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Old 03-03-2022, 06:36 AM
 
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we have been past that point.
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Old 03-03-2022, 07:07 AM
 
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Not sure what your definition of gateway is, but as a tourist or newcomer to the country LA and NY are two places you should visit as they are two very important places.

But to settle down, absolutely not the only places. So many options.
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Old 03-03-2022, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Per Capita, the state's recieving the most immigrants are FL, MA, CT, RI then NJ. iirc
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Old 03-03-2022, 07:33 AM
 
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Yeah, I think we are way past that point already.

I just interviewed a person yesterday who came to the US from Turkey, and his landing spot was Austin.

He said he had researched and seen the rise of Austin's economy, so that was where he targeted. But, he is very open to relocation too, after having only been in Austin for 5 months or so.

We truly live in a global economy, where folks who are moving to the US have access to online info, and they utilize that to their advantage when moving here.

I also think it really depends on the country the person comes from too, and the folks they know and associate with, and gather their information on a city to land in, for the US.
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Old 03-03-2022, 07:50 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Not sure what your definition of gateway is, but as a tourist or newcomer to the country LA and NY are two places you should visit as they are two very important places.

But to settle down, absolutely not the only places. So many options.
^ This.

From a tourism perspective New York and LA are top choices for international visitors (rightfully so), but to relocate permanently to the US, there are plenty of other viable options. Although it's not perfectly cut & dry, and dependent on where people are coming from, their financial status, and what they seek.
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Old 03-03-2022, 10:33 AM
 
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^ This.

From a tourism perspective New York and LA are top choices for international visitors (rightfully so), but to relocate permanently to the US, there are plenty of other viable options. Although it's not perfectly cut & dry, and dependent on where people are coming from, their financial status, and what they seek.

Even before corona in 2018 Miami had a pretty good lead over Los Angeles in international visitors.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ional_visitors
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Old 03-03-2022, 10:43 AM
 
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Uh, it's been that way for a long time already....you can fly from almost anywhere in the country to London nowadays. You can fly from Seattle to India, from Boston to Japan, from Atlanta to South Africa etc.

I created this thread last year and as you can see, LAX and JFK and EWR are major long haul gateway but so are many other airports these days.

Select US Airports by Nonstop Routes 5,000+ Air Miles
51 Los Angeles(LAX)
36 San Francisco(SFO)
31 New York(JFK)
17 Chicago(ORD)
14 Dallas-Fort Worth(DFW)
13 Houston(IAH)
13 Washington(IAD)
11 Newark(EWR)
9 Atlanta(ATL)
9 Boston(BOS)
9 Seattle(SEA)
7 Miami(MIA)
6 Detroit(DTW)
6 Honolulu(HNL)
6 Las Vegas(LAS)
4 San Diego(SAN)
3 Denver(DEN)
2 Minneapolis-St Paul(MSP)
2 Phoenix(PHX)
2 Salt Lake City(SLC)
1 Charlotte(CLT)
1 Philadelphia(PHL)


Atlanta(ATL): 9
8,439 miles------Johannesburg(Delta Air Lines)
7,659 miles------Shanghai(Delta Air Lines)
7,460 miles------Doha(Qatar Airways)
7,153 miles------Seoul(Delta Air Lines, Korean Air)
6,882 miles------Tokyo(Delta Air Lines)
5,843 miles------Lagos(Delta Air Lines)
5,759 miles------Istanbul(Turkish Airways)
5,700 miles------Athens(Delta Air Lines)
5,036 miles------Rome(Delta Air Lines)

Boston(BOS): 9
7,970 miles------Hong Kong(Cathay Pacific)
7,308 miles------Shanghai(Hainan Airlines)
6,829 miles------Seoul(Korean Air)
6,737 miles------Beijing(Hainan Airlines)
6,702 miles------Tokyo(Japan Airlines)
6,651 miles------Dubai(Emirates)
6,518 miles------Doha(Qatar Airways)
5,491 miles------Tel Aviv(El Al)
5,081 miles------Honolulu(Hawaiian Airlines)

Charlotte(CLT): 1
5,095 miles------Madrid(American Airlines)

Chicago(ORD): 17
8,141 miles-----Auckland(Air New Zealand)
7,794 miles-----Hong Kong(Cathay Pacific, United Airlines)
7,757 miles-----Addis Ababa(Ethopian Airlines)
7,484 miles-----Delhi(AIr India)
7,457 miles-----Taipei(EVA Air)
7,257 miles-----Abu Dhabi(Etihad Airways)
7,382 miles-----Chengdu(Hainan Airlines)
7,246 miles-----Dubai(Emirates)
7,133 miles-----Doha(Qatar Airways)
7,057 miles-----Shanghai(China Eastern Airlines, United Airlines)
6,579 miles-----Beijing(Hainan Airlines, United Airlines)
6,552 miles-----Seoul(Korean Air)
6,274 miles-----Tokyo(ANA, Japan Airlines, United Airlines)
6,236 miles-----Amman(Royal Jordanian)
6,180 miles-----Tel Aviv(United Airlines)
5,474 miles-----Istanbul(Turkish Airlines)
5,225 miles-----Sao Paulo(United Airlines)

Dallas-Fort Worth(DFW): 14

8,578 miles------Sydney(Qantas)
8,119 miles------Hong Kong(American Airlines)
8,040 miles------Dubai(Emirates)
7,921 miles------Doha(Qatar Airways)
7,440 miles------Auckland(American Airlines)
7,351 miles------Shanghai(American Airlines)
6,971 miles------Beijing(American Airlines)
6,970 miles------Tel Aviv(American Airlines)
6,829 miles------Seoul(American Airlines, Korean Airlines)
6,427 miles------Tokyo(American Airlines, Japan Airlines)
5,614 miles------Rome(American Airlines)
5,286 miles------Buenos Aires(American Airlines)
5,132 miles------Frankfurt(American Airlines)
5,124 miles------Sao Paulo(American Airlines)

Denver(DEN): 3
5,788 miles------Tokyo(United Airlines)
5,225 miles------Munich(Lufthansa, United Airlines)
5,039 miles------Frankfurt(Lufthansa, United Airlines)

Detroit(DTW): 6
7,137 miles------Shanghai(Delta Air Lines)
6,631 miles------Beijing(Delta Air Lines)
6,525 miles------Nagoya(Delta Air Lines)
6,604 miles------Seoul(Delta Air Lines)
6,492 miles------Amman(Royal Jordanian)
6,397 miles------Tokyo(Delta Air Lines)

Honolulu(HNL): 6

6,722 miles------Kuala Lumpur(AirAsiaX)
5,504 miles------Melbourne(Jetstar Airways)
5,301 miles------Manila(Philippine Airlines)
5,069 miles------Taipei(China Airlines)
5,095 miles------Boston(Hawaiian Airlines)
5,066 miles------Sydney(Hawaiian Airlines, Jetstar Airways, Qantas)

Houston(IAH): 13
8,596 miles------Sydney(United Airlines)
8,168 miles------Dubai(Emirates)
8,048 miles------Doha(Qatar
7,939 miles------Taipei(EVA AIrways)
7,415 miles------Auckland(Air New Zealand)
7,195 miles------Beijing(Air China)
6,407 miles------Tokyo(ANA)
6,371 miles------Istanbul(Turkish Airlines)
5,417 miles------Munich(United Airlines)
5,232 miles------Frankfurt(Lufthansa)
5,062 miles------Buenos Aires(United Airlines)
5,016 miles------Rio de Janeiro(United Airlines)
5,012 miles------Amsterdam(KLM, United Airlines)

Las Vegas(LAS): 6
7,362 miles------Tel Aviv(El Al)
6,022 miles------Seoul(Korean Air)
5,713 miles------Zurich(Edelweiss Air)
5,583 miles------Frankfurt(Condor, Eurowings Discover)
5,355 miles------Amsterdam(KLM)
5,253 miles------London(British Airways, Virgin Atlantic)

Los Angeles(LAX): 51
8,770 miles------Singapore(Singapore Airlines)
8,339 miles------Dubai(Emirates)
8,332 miles------Jeddah(Saudia)
8,267 miles------Riyadh(Saudia)
8,306 miles------Doha(Qatar Airways)
8,169 miles------Ho Chi Minh City(Bamboo Airlines)
7,912 miles------Melbourne(Qantas, United Airlines)
7,574 miles------Tel Aviv(El Al)
7,488 miles------Sydney(Qantas, United Airlines)
7,305 miles------Manila(Philippine Airlines)
7,262 miles------Shenzhen(Air China)
7,260 miles------Hong Kong(Cathay Pacific)
7,231 miles------Guangzhou(China Southern Airlines)
7,207 miles------Chengdu(China Eastern Airlines, Hainan Airlines, Sichuan Airlines)
7,161 miles------Brisbane(Qantas)
7,159 miles------Chongqing(Hainan Airlines)
6,989 miles------Changsha(Hainan Airlines)
6,964 miles------Xiamen(XiamenAir)
6,878 miles------Christchurch(American Airlines)
6,852 miles------Istanbul(Turkish Airlines)
6,850 miles------Xi'an(Hainan Airlines)
6,799 miles------Taipei(China Airlines, EVA Air)
6,587 miles------Hangzhou(Sichuan Airlines)
6,579 miles------Nanjing(China Eastern Airlines)
6,504 miles------Auckland(Air New Zealand, Air Tahiti Nui, American Airlines)
6,485 miles------Shanghai(China Eastern AIrlines, Delta Air Lines)
6,390 miles------Jinan(Sichuan Airlines)
6,354 miles------Rome(Alitalia)
6,297 miles------Qingdao(XiamenAir)
6,237 miles------Beijing(Air China)
6,137 miles------Vienna(Austrian Airlines)
6,016 miles------Warsaw(LOT Polish Airlines)
6,078 miles------Moscow(Aeroflot)
5,995 miles------Seoul(Asiana Airlines, Korean Air)
5,989 miles------Munich(Lufthansa)
5,940 miles------Zurich(Swiss International Air Lines)
5,918 miles------Shenyang(China Southern Airlines)
5,839 miles------Madrid(Iberia)
5,806 miles------Frankfurt(Lufthansa)
5,669 miles------Paris(Air France, Air Tahiti Nui, Delta Air Lines)
5,633 miles------Copenhagen(Scandinavian Airlines)
5,613 miles------Helsinki(Finnair)
5,578 ,miles------Amsterdam(KLM)
5,569 miles------Santiago(LATAM Chile)
5,519 miles------Nadi(Fiji Airways)
5,456 miles------London(American Airlines, British Airways, Delta Air Lines, United Airlines, Virgin Atlantic)
5,471 miles------Osaka(Japan Airlines)
5,451 miles------Tokyo(ANA, Delta Air Lines, Japan Airlines, Singapore Airlines, United Airlines)
5,345 miles------Oslo(Scandinavian Airlines)
5,286 miles------Manchester(Virgin Atlantic)
5,181 miles------Dublin(Aer Lingus)

Miami(MIA): 7
7,845 miles------Dubai(Emirates)
7,680 miles------Doha(Qatar Airways)
6,804 miles------Tel Aviv(American Airlines, El Al
5,967 miles------Istanbul(Turkish Airlines)
5,767 miles------Moscow(Aeroflot)
5,286 miles------Warsaw(LOT Polish Airlines)
5,183 miles------Rome(Alitalia)

Minneapolis-St Paul(MSP): 2
6,248 miles------Seoul(Delta Air Lines)
5,950 miles------Tokyo(Delta Airlines)

New York(JFK): 31
9,534 miles------Singapore(Singapore Airlines)
8,520 miles------Manila(Philippine Airlines)
8,072 miles------Hong Kong(Cathay Pacific)
7,969 miles------Johannesburg(South African Airways)
7,808 miles------Taipei(China Airlines, EVA Air)
7,770 miles------Fuzhou(XiamenAir)
7,590 miles------Chongqing(Hainan Airlines)
7,512 miles------Chengdu(Hainan Airlines)
7,490 miles------Wuhan(China Southern Airlines)
7,392 miles------Shanghai(China Eastern Airlines)
7,357 miles------Nairobi(Kenya Airways)
7,318 miles------Delhi(Air India, American Airlines)
6,906 miles------Seoul(Asiana Airlines, Korean Air)
6,867 miles------Abu Dhabi(Etihad Airways)
6,849 miles------Dubai(Emirates)
6,837 miles------Beijing(Air China)
6,745 miles------Tokyo(ANA, Japan Airlines)
6,704 miles------Doha(Qatar Airways)
6,524 miles------Riyadh(Saudia)
6,365 miles------Jeddah(Saudia)
6,352 miles------Kuwait City(Kuwait Air)
6,338 miles------Tashkent(Uzbekistan Airways)
5,831 miles------Baku(Azerbaijan Airlines)
5,738 miles------Amman(Royal Jordanian)
5,677 miles------Tel Aviv(American Airlines, Delta Air Lines)
5,617 miles------Cairo(Egyptair)
5,282 miles------Buenos Aires(Aerolineas Argentinas, American Airlines)
5,160 miles------Lome(Ethiopian Airlines)
5,111 miles------Accra(Delta Air Lines)
5,097 miles------Santiago(American Airlines, LATAM Chile)
5,000 miles------Instanbul(Turkish Airlines)

Newark(EWR): 11
8,065 miles------Hong Kong(United Airlines)
7,990 miles------Johannesburg(United Airlines)
7,807 miles------Mumbai(Air India, United Airlines)
7,384 miles------Shanghai(United Airlines)
7,324 miles------Delhi(Air India, United Airlines)
6,861 miles------Dubai(Emirates)
6,831 miles------Beijing(Air China, United Airlines)
6,732 miles------Tokyo(United Airlines)
5,692 miles------Tel Aviv(El Al, United Airlines)
5,181 ,miles-----Lome(Ethiopian Airlines)
5,014 miles------Istanbul(Turkish Airlines)

Philadelphia(PHL):
6,797 miles------Doha(Qatar Airways)

Phoenix(PHX): 2

5,637 miles------Frankfurt(Condor)
5,271 miles------London(American Airlines, British Airways)

Salt Lake City(SLC): 2
5,217 miles------Frankfurt(Eurowings Discover)
5,080 miles------Paris(Delta Airlines)

San Diego(SAN): 4
5,969 miles------Zurich(Edelweiss Air)
5,840 miles------Frankfurt(Lufthansa)
5,557 miles------Tokyo(Japan Airlines)
5,485 miles------London(British Airways)

San Francisco(SFO): 36
8,694 miles------Bangalore(Air India, United Airlines)
8,441 miles------Singapore(Cathay Pacific, Singapore Airlines, United Airlines)
8,103 miles------Dubai(Emirates)
8,062 miles------Doha(Qatar Airways)
7,855 miles------Melbourne(Qantas, United Airlines)
7,825 miles------Ho Chi Minh City(Bamboo Airways)
7,707 miles------Delhi(Air India, United Airlines)
7,422 miles------Tel Aviv(El Al, United Airlines)
7,417 miles------Sydney(Qantas, United Airlines)
6,969 miles------Manila(Philippine Airlines)
6,927 miles------Hong Kong(Cathay Pacific, Singapore Airlines, United Airlines)
6,897 miles------Guangzhou(Southern China Airlines)
6,870 miles------Chengdu(United Airlines)
6,705 miles------Istanbul(Turkish Airlines)
6,532 miles------Auckland(Air New Zealand, United Airlines)
6,469 miles------Taipei(China Airlines, EVA Airways, United Airlines)
6,264 miles------Rome(Alitalia)
6,142 miles------Shanghai(Eastern China Airlines, United Airlines)
5,970 miles------Barcelona(Level)
5,913 miles------Beijing(Air China, United Airlines)
5,879 miles------Munich(Lufthansa, United Airlines)
5,867 miles------Warsaw(LOT Polish Airlines)
5,840 miles------Zurich(Swiss International Air Lines, United Airlines)
5,790 miles------Madrid(Iberia)
5,699 miles------Frankfurt(Lufthansa, United Airlines)
5,659 miles------Seoul(Asiana Airlines, Korean Air, United Airlines)
5,583 miles------Paris(Air France, French Bee, United Airlines)
5,581 miles------Lisbon(TAP Portugal)
5,487 miles------Copenhagen(Scandinavian Airlines)
5,473 miles------Amsterdam(KLM, United Airlines)
5,458 miles------Nadi(Fiji Airways)
5,435 miles------Helsinki(Finnair)
5,413 miles------Osaka(United Airlines)
5,368 miles------London(British Airways, United Airlines, Virgin Atlantic)
5,124 miles------Tokyo(ANA, Japan Airlines, United Airlines)
5,086 miles------Dublin(Aer Lingus, United Airlines)

Seattle(SEA): 9
8,078 miles------Bangalore(American Airlines)
8,071 miles------Singapore(Singapore Airlines)
7,425 miles------Dubai(Emirates)
7,411 miles------Doha(Qatar Airways)
6,074 miles------Taipei(EVA Air)
5,709 miles------Shanghai(Delta Air Lines, Hainan Airlines)
5,407 miles------Beijing(Delta Air Lines, Hainan Airlines)
5,217 miles------Seoul(Asiana Airlines, Delta Air Lines, Korean Air)
5,108 miles------Frankfurt(Condor)

Washington(IAD): 13
7,088 miles------Abu Dhabi(Etihad)
7,069 miles------Dubai(Emirates)
6,959 miles------Seoul(Korean Air)
6,927 miles------Doha(Qatar Airways)
6,921 miles------Beijing(Air China, United Airlines)
6,753 miles------Tokyo(ANA, United Airlines)
6,737 miles------Riyadh(Saudia)
6,581 miles------Jeddah(Saudia)
5,951 miles------Tel Aviv(United Airlines)
5,832 miles------Cairo(Egyptair)
5,288 miles------Warsaw(LOT Polish Airlines)
5,296 miles------Accra(South African Airways, United Airlines)
5,225 miles------Istanbul(Turkish Airlines)
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Old 03-03-2022, 11:03 AM
 
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Select US Airports by Nonstop Routes 5,000+ Air Miles
51 Los Angeles(LAX)
36 San Francisco(SFO)
31 New York(JFK)
17 Chicago(ORD)
14 Dallas-Fort Worth(DFW)
13 Houston(IAH)
13 Washington(IAD)
11 Newark(EWR)
9 Atlanta(ATL)
9 Boston(BOS)
9 Seattle(SEA)
7 Miami(MIA)
6 Detroit(DTW)
6 Honolulu(HNL)
6 Las Vegas(LAS)
4 San Diego(SAN)
3 Denver(DEN)
2 Minneapolis-St Paul(MSP)
2 Phoenix(PHX)
2 Salt Lake City(SLC)
1 Charlotte(CLT)
1 Philadelphia(PHL)


Where did you get 7 for Miami? Out of MIA's 93 nonstop international routes I'm seeing 19 going to Europe and the Middle East alone in Jan. 2022. And 74 nonstop domestic.


https://www.miami-airport.com/librar...s%20Served.pdf
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Old 03-03-2022, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Where did you get 7 for Miami? Out of MIA's 93 nonstop international routes I'm seeing 19 going to Europe and the Middle East alone in Jan. 2022. And 74 nonstop domestic.


https://www.miami-airport.com/librar...s%20Served.pdf
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Right but I was looking at flights 5,000+ miles.
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