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I just try to gauge..: is this level of success recent or has it always been in the background. Honestly I think it’s recent. 20 years ago black student in MA public schools were very average and outperformed by several southern states. And more importantly, we need these type of exceptional results in our private elite universities- not just the state schools. Which again, we’re really fun and comfortable to visit as a college age person for me.
Hmmm. I'm not sure black people are gaining economically, and the goal posts for "middle class" move so much, I'm not sure what that is anymore. Black immigrants are gaining, though. For statistical purposes, they should not be lumped in the same category as blacks who have been rooted in America before the 20th century. People will see this as divisive, but it's not. Immigrant populations are not random selections.
4 of the 5 cities are roughly equivalent in percentage of total households >75k (15.5 to 15.8%) and >200k (1 to 1.3%), with Cleveland lagging significantly behind the others at 10.9 and 0.5%.
Source: 2011 and 2020 5-Year Census ACS data.
Per the ACS data, each city showed a decrease in the number of Black households between 2010 and 2020. So, even with a decreasing population all cities showed an increase in households over 75k, but Cleveland appears to be losing its wealthiest Black residents.
Now to make things more jumbled, the change in total Black households (all incomes) from ACS data appears to be VERY different from the percent change in actual Black population measured in the 2010 and 2020 actual counts.
All Black Households
Detroit - 211,813 (2010) / 211,614 (2020) / -199 (-0.1%) [-15.9% population 2020 Census]
St. Louis - 60,866 (2010) / 60,197 (2020) / -669 (-1.1%) [-17.4% population 2020 Census]
Cleveland - 87,744 (2010) / 83,823 (2020) / -3,921 (-4.5%) [-14.9% population 2020 Census]
Pittsburgh - 32,381 (2010) / 30,240 (2020) / -2,141 (-6.6%) [-13.4% population 2020 Census]
Buffalo - 40,754 (2010) / 39,576 (2020) / -1,178 (-2.9%) [+1.8% population 2020 Census]
So, we will have to await the next round of ACS data that uses actual 2020 data in its calculations to get a better handle on wealth and income, although the pandemic impacts followed by the current hiring spree and inflation will make it very difficult to compare with older data.
Hmmm. I'm not sure black people are gaining economically, and the goal posts for "middle class" move so much, I'm not sure what that is anymore. Black immigrants are gaining, though. For statistical purposes, they should not be lumped in the same category as blacks who have been rooted in America before the 20th century. People will see this as divisive, but it's not. Immigrant populations are not random selections.
Well I think they can be included in the Black/African American demographic category and still be broken out as 1st or 2nd generation immigrants. By the third generation, they are essentially part of the Black American mainstream for the most part.
Again these are households at $75,000 and up, using 2020 US Census data.
HR isn't surprising given the huge military presence and huge city limits of largely suburban Chesapeake and Virginia Beach, but it's still impressive. San Diego is up there as well due to the large military presence.
I don't know what the Baltimore equivalent would be to Ward 7. Ward 7 has the overwhelming majority of Black middle-class EOTR. Even though we speak about Ward 8 too for EOTR, the Black epicenter is mainly Ward 7 and the difference between Ward 7 and Ward 8 is drastic. I wouldn't want to live in Ward 8.
I don't know if there is a neighborhood in Baltimore with the amount of Black owned restaurants coming to Ward 7. Which Black neighborhood in Baltimore are you thinking?
Well I think they can be included in the Black/African American demographic category and still be broken out as 1st or 2nd generation immigrants. By the third generation, they are essentially part of the Black American mainstream for the most part.
It's not a fair comparison, especially when wealth has been stolen from non-immigrant blacks. But it makes the willfully ignorant feel better about their group behavior.
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