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Old 07-22-2022, 01:30 PM
 
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EOTR has historically had extremely high poverty. The influx of Black wealth is a new phenomenon EOTR that began just before 2010. The Black middle-class has always lived in NW. The silver coast in Hill Crest has always existed EOTR, but that was a very small neighborhood and population compared to all of EOTR. Is that the history of those neighborhoods in NYC you’re discussing?


I agree about the high density cities compared to low density cities being separated. There probably should be two categories.
I was thinking more of SE Queens, which in spite of being largely SFH's, it is still quite dense, in the mid 80's-low 90's in black percentage and is largely middle class.
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Old 07-22-2022, 03:47 PM
 
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I was thinking more of SE Queens, which in spite of being largely SFH's, it is still quite dense, in the mid 80's-low 90's in black percentage and is largely middle class.
Well, that’s your answer. Look at other Black areas of NYC with a mixture of multifamily. The DC neighborhoods EOTR that are all sfh’s detached have median incomes in the middle $100k’s.
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Old 07-22-2022, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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I look at my hometown with the links provided earlier: Columbus, MS - 636 black households earned $75K or more in the city. That's 10% of Black households.
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Old 07-22-2022, 09:19 PM
 
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Well, that’s your answer. Look at other Black areas of NYC with a mixture of multifamily. The DC neighborhoods EOTR that are all sfh’s detached have median incomes in the middle $100k’s.
There are multifamily units in SE Queens too. I'm just referring to the fact that it is relatively high density, predominantly/overwhelmingly black and generally middle class. For instance, the 11411 zip code(Cambria Heights) went from 111 black households making $200k or more in 2000 to 886 black households making that much in 2020(the biggest group in plurality), all while having about 400 less black households. 2000: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...LSF32000.P151B

2020: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...Poverty&y=2020

So, there has also been growing in terms of income in parts of SE Queens as well.
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Old 07-22-2022, 09:20 PM
 
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I look at my hometown with the links provided earlier: Columbus, MS - 636 black households earned $75K or more in the city. That's 10% of Black households.
Given the cost of living, you could drop down to a lower income bracket and still be middle class.
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Old 07-22-2022, 10:08 PM
 
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Given the cost of living, you could drop down to a lower income bracket and still be middle class.
The median household for my city is around $34K so even at $50K your doing well there. Also found there's 23 households at $250K+ too.
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Old 07-23-2022, 03:52 AM
 
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There are multifamily units in SE Queens too. I'm just referring to the fact that it is relatively high density, predominantly/overwhelmingly black and generally middle class. For instance, the 11411 zip code(Cambria Heights) went from 111 black households making $200k or more in 2000 to 886 black households making that much in 2020(the biggest group in plurality), all while having about 400 less black households. 2000: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...LSF32000.P151B

2020: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...Poverty&y=2020

So, there has also been growing in terms of income in parts of SE Queens as well.
Yeah, that is true. Zip Code 20019 gained a significant amount of households too. That Queen’s zip code was leading in most categories over $75K in 2000.


Queens and Ward 7 2000 Census Data



Queens and Ward 7 2020 Census Data

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Old 07-23-2022, 04:30 AM
 
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There are multifamily units in SE Queens too. I'm just referring to the fact that it is relatively high density, predominantly/overwhelmingly black and generally middle class. For instance, the 11411 zip code(Cambria Heights) went from 111 black households making $200k or more in 2000 to 886 black households making that much in 2020(the biggest group in plurality), all while having about 400 less black households. 2000: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...LSF32000.P151B

2020: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...Poverty&y=2020

So, there has also been growing in terms of income in parts of SE Queens as well.
The income in Ward 7 is segregated based on housing type.

I listed the block groups in Ward 7 below with a median income above $70k. These have very few multifamily units.


Ward 7 Block Groups in DC


https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...f-columbia-dc/
Population = 1,918
Median household income = $119,464
Race & Ethnicity = 74% Black

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...f-columbia-dc/
Population = 1,206
Median household income = $119,861
Race & Ethnicity = 78% Black

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...f-columbia-dc/
Population = 1,067
Median household income = $105,192
Race & Ethnicity = 91% Black

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...f-columbia-dc/
Population = 627
Median household income = $103,804
Race & Ethnicity = 85% Black


https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...f-columbia-dc/
Population = 2,535
Median household income = $92,466
Race & Ethnicity = 93% Black

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...f-columbia-dc/
Population = 1,229
Median household income = $86,118
Race & Ethnicity = 83% Black

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...f-columbia-dc/
Population = 2,248
Median household income = $82,481
Race & Ethnicity = 95% Black

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...f-columbia-dc/
Population = 1,343
Median household income = $79,792
Race & Ethnicity = 92% Black

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...f-columbia-dc/
Population = 558
Median household income = $74,853
Race & Ethnicity = 97% Black


https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...f-columbia-dc/
Population = 1,443
Median household income = $71,354
Race & Ethnicity = 90% Black

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...f-columbia-dc/
Population = 701
Median household income = $72,308
Race & Ethnicity = 82% Black

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...f-columbia-dc/
Population = 818
Median household income = $71,290
Race & Ethnicity = 90% Black
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Old 07-24-2022, 07:51 AM
 
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^Just curious, but outside of the DC talk, what are some cities that you think has seen some of the highest increases in the black middle class?
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Old 07-24-2022, 01:43 PM
 
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^Just curious, but outside of the DC talk, what are some cities that you think has seen some of the highest increases in the black middle class?
My top 10 would go like this (not in order):


NYC
Chicago
DC
Baltimore
Philadelphia
Charlotte
Dallas
Houston
Atlanta
Detroit

If I had to guess, these cities had the largest raw net gain of households making over $75K from 2011-2020. I used 2011 because it is measuring results from July 2010.

How about you? What is your top 10?
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