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Old 10-11-2022, 06:06 PM
 
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It's October right now, I wanna know how "busy" or how "active" each state is right now. How much "stuff" each of the states has going on. And which state has the most for October. But not just that. I wanna know that for November too. And December, and all the other months.

Know what would be ideal? Some kind of map where you select a state, and it shows you a bar or line graph or something of how tourism/activity fluctuates throughout the year. For instance, Southeastern beach states (and Texas) would probably see an upward trend somewhere around Spring Break.

I know this is a tall order, but if anyone's ever heard of anything like this existing, I'd like to look at it. Or if the data exists anywhere I might just make my own.
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Old 10-11-2022, 10:46 PM
 
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It's a hard thing to do.

Hotel nights? You miss people who stay with friends or just visit for the day.

Credit cards by people outside the area? You miss cash users, and you gain pass-throughs who just buy pancakes.

Some counts include a ton of locals, like ones that use state lines and credit cards but catch people who simply commute to work that way.
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Old 10-12-2022, 08:09 AM
 
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It's a hard thing to do.

Hotel nights? You miss people who stay with friends or just visit for the day.

Credit cards by people outside the area? You miss cash users, and you gain pass-throughs who just buy pancakes.

Some counts include a ton of locals, like ones that use state lines and credit cards but catch people who simply commute to work that way.
What about inbound airport traffic? When does that peak and dip for each state?
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Old 10-12-2022, 08:56 AM
 
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Maybe that's mostly local residents flying back from vacations.


Inbound and outbound is typically the same people.
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Old 10-12-2022, 12:13 PM
 
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Julian, you ask a question which I am curious about myself since I came to City-Data.

If I remember right, the Federal government had something on International tourists coming into the USA and which states they go to. Was it the Department of Commerce, the Census Bureau, I forget. But even that is limited information.

In addition to what are you asking, what time of the year tourists are coming, I am interested in which parts of each state tourists are going to.

For instance my state, New York State, is one of the bigger tourist states, much of it to New York City. But there is heavy tourism to other parts like Niagara Falls, the Adirondacks, Long Island, the Finger Lakes, etc. - so I would like to see tourism numbers broken down by county or region.
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Old 10-12-2022, 12:19 PM
 
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Customs tracks inbound visitors. But only points of entry, not where they actually visit.
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Old 10-12-2022, 02:33 PM
 
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Customs tracks inbound visitors. But only points of entry, not where they actually visit.
That would work, I could extrapolate where people are likely going from there.

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Maybe that's mostly local residents flying back from vacations.


Inbound and outbound is typically the same people.
What about "When are the airports busiest?" I imagine there would be spikes around the holidays, but if you factor that out you should get when the state is naturally attracting people.
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Old 10-12-2022, 02:42 PM
 
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That would work, I could extrapolate where people are likely going from there.



What about "When are the airports busiest?" I imagine there would be spikes around the holidays, but if you factor that out you should get when the state is naturally attracting people.
The problem with the airport data is that some of includes numbers that are more for connecting flights than in state tourism.

Just for example, some of our New York to Florida flights are routed with a brief stop in Atlanta. Why should we count New Yorkers going to Florida (or vice-versa) as tourists in Georgia when they are really just passing through?
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Old 10-12-2022, 02:59 PM
 
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The problem with the airport data is that some of includes numbers that are more for connecting flights than in state tourism.

Just for example, some of our New York to Florida flights are routed with a brief stop in Atlanta. Why should we count New Yorkers going to Florida (or vice-versa) as tourists in Georgia when they are really just passing through?
Ah, that probably explains why Atlanta International Airport is the busiest airport in the country. It's a layover spot.

Okay, hotel nights I think would be a good metric. It's not perfect, but I'm just looking for trends.
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Old 10-12-2022, 03:31 PM
 
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The busiest airport times can still be based on when locals are traveling more than inbound visitors.

Of course even visitors are a mix of pass-throughs (as LINative notes), business travelers, tourists...
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