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Old 02-03-2023, 12:06 PM
 
Location: West Midlands, England
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The same thing that happened to the UK (with Brexit putting the final nail in the coffin) is what's happening in the US now.

In another decade or so, the American middle class will largely disappear.
100% true.
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Old 02-03-2023, 12:57 PM
 
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100% true.
No one can say something is 100% true, unless it's already happened. Not hard to dispute that. Also, not sure what this has to do with the Iowa/Nebraska thing. You know, the bashing of the US.

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Old 02-03-2023, 01:47 PM
 
Location: West Midlands, England
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No one can say something is 100% true, unless it's already happened. Not hard to dispute that. Also, not sure what this has to do with the Iowa/Nebraska thing. You know, the bashing of the US.
Well I didn't derail the thread. I was just discussing with someone what the most pure distillation of Midwestern culture was, because of the fact that Iowa is often cited as being the state that is the most representative of the Midwest.

I wasn't bashing the US either, I was merely stating what it is a well established fact, that the US, and the western world at large, is in a deep state of disarray and turmoil at the moment.
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Old 02-03-2023, 01:53 PM
 
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Since you haven't lived here before, and don't really know the area personally, Iowa is not much, at all like Wisconsin or Michigan...I can't speak for Ohio. It is similar to parts of Minnesota, parts of Nebraska, and maybe eastern parts of SD and Kansas, but not that much like Kansas, I don't think. All these states are different, and trying to figure out which one embodies these many states over this very vast region, is kind of pointless. What might be the "norm" for Iowa, could be quite different from the "norm" in WI. Kind of futile, and I don't get why people try to pick one random area to embody the entire Midwest.
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Old 02-03-2023, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Ga, from Minneapolis
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Since you haven't lived here before, and don't really know the area personally, Iowa is not much, at all like Wisconsin or Michigan...I can't speak for Ohio. It is similar to parts of Minnesota, parts of Nebraska, and maybe eastern parts of SD and Kansas, but not that much like Kansas, I don't think. All these states are different, and trying to figure out which one embodies these many states over this very vast region, is kind of pointless. What might be the "norm" for Iowa, could be quite different from the "norm" in WI. Kind of futile, and I don't get why people try to pick one random area to embody the entire Midwest.
I agree. When I think of the midwest, I think of the north central region as a whole, not just the rural areas. I think of the industrial cities, the great lakes, the north woods, cold winters, and farmland. I think Iowa is representative of the rural midwest but not the midwest as a whole.
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Old 02-03-2023, 02:08 PM
 
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I agree. When I think of the midwest, I think of the north central region as a whole, not just the rural areas. I think of the industrial cities, the great lakes, the north woods, cold winters, and farmland. I think Iowa is representative of the rural midwest but not the midwest as a whole.
I completely agree as well.

Iowa is probably the quintessence of "Middle America", though.
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Old 02-03-2023, 02:35 PM
 
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I completely agree as well.

Iowa is probably the quintessence of "Middle America", though.
Maybe that's how some want to perceive "Middle America", but that would be the "movie" version, not reality.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Mi...!4d-87.9064736

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8928.../data=!3m1!1e3

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Mi...!4d-85.6023643

These are all a part of the Midwest. Maybe not your version, but these cities exist...Milwaukee in the first pic, Chicago second, and Michigan. A whole lot more pics like these that maybe don't fit your version of a sleepy Iowa town. These pics represent a diverse Midwest...not the "movie" version.

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Old 02-03-2023, 02:47 PM
 
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Maybe that's how some want to perceive "Middle America", but that would be the "movie" version, not reality.
Elaborate.
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Old 02-03-2023, 02:55 PM
 
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Elaborate.
I did...see links.
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Old 02-03-2023, 02:56 PM
 
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I did...see links.
That wasn't there when I first read it.
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