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Old 02-06-2023, 06:52 PM
 
Location: West Midlands, England
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Definitely. The Minnesota and Iowa portions are essentially identical geologically. Wisconsin had some different forces at work, but still very similar and very beautiful.

It's one of America's absolute hidden gems, IMO. I'm biased as I live on the western edge of it and spend most of my recreational times there. You are seeing more interest from Chicagoland, but most of the country has no clue it exists.
Reminds me a lot of the Carpathian Woodlands in Romania where I went once, based on Google Images that is.

By the way, did you read my response I gave to your last post on P14? Thought it was interesting what we were discussing for a moment then.
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Old 02-07-2023, 05:42 AM
 
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To me somewhere purely Midwestern or Middle American is somewhere not too rural or urban (so preferably a mid-sized rural town or an outlying/isolated suburb of a major city, with a population roughly between 15 and 75 thousand people), where politics are competitive, where eastern, western, northern or southern accents or identities do not come to play, and that is for the most equidistant to most of the country.

I also think this because what I described above is what sociologists and geographers who've studied this sort of thing in the past used as their model for the Midwest, with places like Muncie, IN, Peoria, IL or Decatur, IL, often being cited as quintessential Midwest towns.
Marshalltown would fit the criteria you listed.
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Old 02-07-2023, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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The closer you get to Missouri in southern Iowa, things get much worse. Centerville, IA is in far worse shape than Ottumwa, IA and the statistics confirm this:

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...iowa/PST045222
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Old 02-07-2023, 09:46 AM
 
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The closer you get to Missouri in southern Iowa, things get much worse. Centerville, IA is in far worse shape than Ottumwa, IA and the statistics confirm this:

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...iowa/PST045222
Rural Missouri as a whole (other than the resort areas) is in much worse shape than rural Iowa.
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Old 02-07-2023, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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Rural Missouri as a whole (other than the resort areas) is in much worse shape than rural Iowa.
Yes, Iowa doesn't have remotely the level of rural poverty that Missouri does. Centerville actually has the highest poverty rate of any town in Iowa over 5000 people. Resort areas in Missouri do not appeal to me due to the humidity and heat factor. I always go Up North in the summer to get 75F high temperatures in July. (northern Vilas County, WI).
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Old 02-07-2023, 02:01 PM
 
Location: West Midlands, England
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Marshalltown would fit the criteria you listed.
What's your opinion on the supposition I made?

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