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I'm curious. Iowa is only a little further north than Nebraska, the eastern fourth of Nebraska has a similar climate to Iowa, and I have yet to hear any Iowans with Upper Midwest accents (e.g. Wisconsinese and Minnesotan).
I'm curious. Iowa is only a little further north than Nebraska, the eastern fourth of Nebraska has a similar climate to Iowa, and I have yet to hear any Iowans with Upper Midwest accents (e.g. Wisconsinese and Minnesotan).
I've heard people in the northern 1/3 of Iowa (so excluding Des Moines) have Upper Midwest accents.
I think, to the extent that Iowa is called Upper Midwestern, it may also have to do with the state having a strong rural union Democrat tradition like MN and WI. That seems to be on its way out now (in all three states), but as late as 2012, Obama carried Iowa.
Iowa is mostly not Upper Midwest, just the northern-most 25% or so. I'm kinda reluctant to refer to the Dakotas as the Upper Midwest tho either, as probably 80% of both ND/SD are not geographically the Midwest, but more like Great Plains. Only the Eastern edge is midwest (Fargo & Sioux Falls, even Grand Forks although on the eastern edge of ND, is intermediate)
Upper Midwest is what I geographically define as only the area above 44N latitude east of the Dakotas, and including northern lower Michigan. So, most of Minnesota, 3/4 of Wisconsin, and 2/3 of Michigan.
1. Nebraska is not referred to as "upper midwest" because it is one of the 2 states (then territories) in the original midwest (the other being Kansas).
2. I have never heard Iowa called the upper midwest, but there's dumb people everywhere.
North Dakota and South Dakota don't have much in common with the Upper Midwest because they are generally more aligned with the western US. Perhaps, far eastern areas of both states, but none have the Northwoods related features, which is generally a commonality that the Upper Midwest is known for.
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