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Old 12-08-2022, 01:00 PM
 
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I'd been searching for a better radius population tool with updated totals since the last time the topic came up. It looks like in another thread we've found the most updated and accurate tool to date. Here are new stats using 2016-2020 ACS data. This thread is measuring total population over land mass, not density, and will include water because the tool only tallies up from a center point. These are not square miles. The numbers represent the actual amount of people residing in that selected radi from "downtown".

Criteria:

-Cities chosen are those that must anchor their own MSA
-All radius points of every city on this list are using the central Zip Code as fairly as possible from the downtown (i.e. city hall/municipal building) and either radiating outward to 25, 35, or 50 miles total.
- There's no cherry picking by using a cities most populous or dense zip code. The standard is being set as "center of downtown" for lack of a better term.

As we began to discuss in another thread, radius population will not advantage cities where the water base is unevenly distributed from the center point vs the land area. I will make the post here and later point out a few notable things.

What stands out to you?

I will finish the 50 mile radius calculations, and post those totals shortly. Also please inform me if any corrections should be made based on the criteria.

City (Zip Code) 25 mi- radius population

New York (10007) - 14,806,801
Los Angeles (90012) - 9,784,044
Chicago (60604) - 5,701,413
Houston (77002) - 5,398,211
Washington (20001) - 5,059,519
Philadelphia (19102) - 4,868,626
Dallas (75204) - 4,795,653
Phoenix (85003) - 3,997,025
Atlanta (30303) - 3,851,392
Boston (02210) - 3,704,278
San Francisco (94102) - 3,668,532
Detroit (48201) - 3,365,829
Miami (33133) - 3,362,540
Seattle (98104) - 3,180,316
Minneapolis (55415) - 3,036,783
Denver (80202) - 3,054,408
San Jose (95113) - 2,816,532
Baltimore (21202) - 2,767,767
Tampa (33602) -2,738,631
Orlando (32801) - 2,443,442
San Diego (92102) - 2,413,486
Portland (97204) - 2,366,376
Las Vegas (89101) - 2,217,026
San Antonio (78205) - 2,177,126
Sacramento (95814) - 2,148,723
Charlotte (28202) - 2,131,395
St. Louis (63103) - 2,118,403
Austin (78701) - 1,956,126
Kansas City (64106) - 1,920,162
Cincinnati (45202) - 1,874,704
Cleveland (44114) - 1,856,547
Pittsburgh (15219) - 1,845,876
Indianapolis (46204) - 1,815,854
Columbus (43215) - 1,770,870
Providence (02903) - 1,765,141
Hartford (06103) - 1,753,521
Raleigh (27601) - 1,709,960
Salt Lake City (84101) - 1,642,588
Milwaukee (53202) - 1,552,927
Norfolk/Va Beach (23510) - 1,520,216
Jacksonville (32202) - 1,390,777
Nashville (37201) - 1,379,835
Worcester, MA (01608) - 1,341,056
Oklahoma City (73102) - 1,292,606
Richmond, VA (23219) - 1,209,734
Louisville (40202) - 1,194,308
Memphis (38103) - 1,180,203
Buffalo (14202) - 1,127,157
Fresno (93721) - 1,046,215
Tuscon (85701) -1,026,500

City(Zip Code) 35 mi- radius population

New York (10007) - 17,345,328
Los Angeles (90012) - 12,363,806
Chicago (60604) - 7,658,532
Washington (20001)- 6,921,371
Dallas (75204)- 6,575,249
Houston (77002)- 6,455,284
Philadelphia (19102)- 6,180,584
Atlanta (30303)- 5,297,058
Boston (02201) - 4,979,790
San Francisco (94102)- 4,969,332
Baltimore (21202)- 4,874,038
Phoenix (85003)- 4,572,406
Miami (33133)- 4,227,115
Detroit (48201)- 4,179,037
Seattle (98104)- 4,078,915
San Jose (95113)- 4,019,305
Tampa (33602) - 3,526,521
Minneapolis (55415) - 3,419,340
Denver (80202) - 3,356,700
Providence (02903) - 3,063,693
Orlando (32801) - 3,042,290
San Diego (92102)- 3,034,755
Worcester, MA (01608) - 2,907,145
Cleveland (44114) - 2,600,818
Sacramento (95814)- 2,555,780
Portland (97204) - 2,543,792
Charlotte (28202) - 2,499,745
St. Louis (63103)- 2,475,780
San Antonio (78205) - 2,473,767
Pittsburgh (15219) - 2,297,521
Austin (78701) - 2,256,073
Cincinnati (45202) - 2,201,003
Kansas City (64106) - 2,107,910
Raleigh (27601) - 2,063,887
Columbus (43215) - 2,058,746
Indianapolis (46204) - 2,040,349
Milwaukee (53202) - 1,908,288
Nashville (37201) - 1,826,965
Norfolk/Va Beach (23510) - 1,638,779
Jacksonville (32202) - 1,557,192
Louisville (40202) - 1,410,002
Oklahoma City (73102) - 1,405,022
Richmond, VA (23219) - 1,323,068
Grand Rapids (49503) - 1,315,885
Memphis (38103) - 1,278,664
Fresno (93721) - 1,264,477
Buffalo (14202)- 1,234,057
New Orleans (70112) - 1,203,749
Birmingham (35203) - 1,095,055
Tuscon (85701) - 1,055,753

The tool used for calculating is here:

https://mcdc.missouri.edu/applications/capsACS.html

Fort Worth, TX? The city itself is over 900K residents. I lived in Birmingham and visited New Orleans, KC OKC, Nashville and Cincinnati. I cant believe they have greater # of people within a 25 or 35 miles radius. FW is the county seat of Tarrant which has a population of 2.1 million. Using Google maps, its not 20 miles from downtown FW to the Dallas county line. So there's some overlap but not enough to be less than 1.5 million within a 25 mile radius.

Last edited by walker1962; 12-08-2022 at 01:06 PM.. Reason: adding context on FW/Tarrant County population
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Old 12-08-2022, 01:03 PM
 
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Some would be higher if they used a different zip code instead of Downtown. Chicago sits next to a lake. That takes a lot of population land away. And we’re the radius for be in River Oaks or Uptown, Houston, I’d imagine the pop to be higher too.
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Old 12-08-2022, 01:53 PM
 
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Some would be higher if they used a different zip code instead of Downtown. Chicago sits next to a lake. That takes a lot of population land away. And we’re the radius for be in River Oaks or Uptown, Houston, I’d imagine the pop to be higher too.
MSA’s adjacent to large bodies of water are almost universally denser than their geographical “land locked” counterparts as sprawl is hemmed in by geography something radius can’t differentiate
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Old 12-08-2022, 02:00 PM
 
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Fort Worth, TX? The city itself is over 900K residents. I lived in Birmingham and visited New Orleans, KC OKC, Nashville and Cincinnati. I cant believe they have greater # of people within a 25 or 35 miles radius. FW is the county seat of Tarrant which has a population of 2.1 million. Using Google maps, its not 20 miles from downtown FW to the Dallas county line. So there's some overlap but not enough to be less than 1.5 million within a 25 mile radius.
Please read over the OP again. Cities chosen are listed because of one of the criteria of being the lead city of their own MSA. Fort Worth Texas is not. Otherwise the tool is there posted for people with inquiries as to where a particular radius population is you can check. There were only two exceptions made for Norfolk, as it is more the more centrally located and equally, if not more, notable city than Va Beach, and later Ft. Lauderdale was added juxtapose to Miami, due to much of the metro population being centered West and North of Miami's downtown center.

If Fort Worth, TX were lead of it's own MSA, it would be listed. But as response to simple inquiry, below are the totals with FW, TX City Hall Zip code 76102 chosen as the radii.

Fort Worth, TX (76102) 25 miles:
2,923,451

Fort Worth, TX (76102) 35 miles:
4,861,065

Fort Worth, TX (76102) 40 miles:
5,908,221

Last edited by the resident09; 12-08-2022 at 02:31 PM..
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Old 12-08-2022, 02:10 PM
 
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MSA’s adjacent to large bodies of water are almost universally denser than their geographical “land locked” counterparts as sprawl is hemmed in by geography something radius can’t differentiate
Yes, it gets wonky because of the water. NYC's population center is somewhere in New Jersey because of it. Another tricky thing is places in the northeast that are close to each other. If you do like a 50mi radius, the population center may be somewhere in the middle of New Jersey so that it captures both NYC and Philly.
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Old 12-10-2022, 07:00 AM
 
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Please read over the OP again. Cities chosen are listed because of one of the criteria of being the lead city of their own MSA. Fort Worth Texas is not. Otherwise the tool is there posted for people with inquiries as to where a particular radius population is you can check. There were only two exceptions made for Norfolk, as it is more the more centrally located and equally, if not more, notable city than Va Beach, and later Ft. Lauderdale was added juxtapose to Miami, due to much of the metro population being centered West and North of Miami's downtown center.

If Fort Worth, TX were lead of it's own MSA, it would be listed. But as response to simple inquiry, below are the totals with FW, TX City Hall Zip code 76102 chosen as the radii.

Fort Worth, TX (76102) 25 miles:
2,923,451

Fort Worth, TX (76102) 35 miles:
4,861,065

Fort Worth, TX (76102) 40 miles:
5,908,221
Thanks for the clarification. But that definition points to the uniqueness of the DFW area.
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Old 12-10-2022, 09:11 AM
 
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Thanks for the clarification. But that definition points to the uniqueness of the DFW area.
What's unique about it? He just picked the primary city in the metro.
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Old 06-17-2023, 06:07 AM
 
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I finished the rankings up to around 750,000..

The largest population centers in the US ranked

City (Zip Code) 40 mi- radius population

1) New York (10007) - 18,194,657
2) Los Angeles (90012)- 13,408,600
3) Chicago (60604) - 8,548,255
4) Washington (20001) - 7,738,933
5) Dallas (75204) - 7,117,920
6) Houston (77002) - 6,698,966
7) Philadelphia (19102) - 6,662,366
8) Baltimore (21202) - 5,884,206
9) San Francisco (94102) - 5,876,664
10) Boston (02210) - 5,734,895
11) Atlanta (30303) - 5,685,067
12) Fort Lauderdale (33301) - 5,349,489
13) Worcester, MA (01608) - 5,017,932
14) San Jose (95113) - 4,920,413
15) Phoenix (85003) - 4,653,729
16) Miami (33133) - 4,562,115
17) Detroit (48201) - 4,449,431
18) Providence (02903) - 4,443,376
19) Seattle (98104) - 4,298,067
20) Tampa (33602) - 3,851,664
21) Minneapolis (55415) - 3,573,619
22) Denver (80202) - 3,396,946
23) Orlando (32801) - 3,236,666
24) San Diego (92102) - 3,198,891
25) Hartford (06103) - 3,064,362
26) Sacramento (95814) - 2,929,136
27) Cleveland (44114) - 2,794,282
28) Charlotte (28202) - 2,753,236
29) Springfield Massachusetts 2,699,116
30) West Palm Beach 2,696,217
31) Portland (97204) - 2,624,512
32) St. Louis (63103) - 2,596,972
33) San Antonio (78205) - 2,526,659
34) Pittsburgh (15219) -2,475,033
35) Salt Lake City 2,441,673
36) Cincinnati (45202) - 2,366,070
37) Dayton 2,380,351
38) Austin (78701) - 2,330,786
39) Raleigh (27601) - 2,263,969
40) Kansas City (64106) - 2,223,774
41) Las Vegas 2,188,242
42) Indianapolis (46204) - 2,184,333
43) Columbus (43215) - 2,176,244
44) Milwaukee (53202) - 1,991,428
45) Harrisburg 1,981,180
46) Nashville (37201) - 1,980,064
47) Norfolk/Va Beach (23510) - 1,751,446
48) Jacksonville (32202) - 1,640,384
49) Louisville (40202) - 1,514,230
50) Greenville SC 1,474,593
51) Oklahoma City (73102) - 1,471,358
52) Grand Rapids (49503) - 1,440,440
53) Fresno (93721) - 1,428,317
54) Richmond, VA (23219) - 1,391,904
55) Memphis (38103) - 1,341,361
56) Fort Myers 1,381,041
57) New Orleans (70112) - 1,307,376
58) Buffalo (14202) - 1,306,270
59) Madison Wisconsin 1,301,985
60) Toledo 1,193,221
61) Birmingham (35203) - 1,188,755
62) Albany NY 1,182,327
63) McAllen 1,176,306
64) Rochester NY 1,122,017
65) Knoxville 1,109,727
66) Lansing Michigan 1,069,736
67) Tucson 1,052,566
68) Chattanooga 1,029,599
69) Honolulu 1,015,780
70) Tulsa 1,015,346
71) Omaha 1,010,649
72) Columbia SC 1,007,284
73) Colorado Springs 962,787
74) South Bend 943,517
75) Baton Rouge 929,178
76) El Paso 926,479
77) Syracuse NY 926,439
78) Albuquerque 914,879
79) Huntsville 894,450
80) Lexington 883,933
81) Little Rock 844,649
82) Des Moines 839,399
83) Green Bay 829,622
84) Boise 749,480
85) Spokane 737,881

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Old 06-17-2023, 06:52 AM
 
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It seems weird to have Worcester as the 13th largest population center in the US. Maybe eliminate the ones where a bigger city is in that radius. But also thanks for the hard work.
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Old 06-17-2023, 07:32 AM
 
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It seems weird to have Worcester as the 13th largest population center in the US. Maybe eliminate the ones where a bigger city is in that radius. But also thanks for the hard work.
It is kind of thrilling that Worcester is ahead of San Jose here since they both have that issue.
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