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I just looked through the 3 mile radius and I think that's where you really see a difference between the old cities and the new ones.
I was really impressed with Philadelphia. It has almost 500k people within 3 miles of Downtown putting it on par with San Francisco and Boston. Whereas Dallas has 174k and Houston 188k. Heck Even Austin at 179k. Phoenix on the other hand was at 93k. I'll get exact stats but at 3 miles you can really see a huge difference.
To put this into perspective, you have mid sized Northeastern and Midwestern city centers that are on par with or surpass those populations within 3 miles of Downtown.
Looking at just the southern ones, It is interesting how wide the spread is.
It's really interesting that Phoenix tops Atlanta. Growing up Phoenix, LA and Houston were all poster children for sprawl. But looking at data in new ways, such as radial population or urban area, you see those cities in a new light.
Philadelphia and DC are less than 40k away from each other. That's close. DC has put on tremendous growth the last 20 yrs, but I think Philadelphia is going to join in on the growth this decade. To me it is the most attractive in the NE corridor right now in terms of bang for your buck.
Atlanta imo has slightly better urban neighborhoods than Dallas/Houston (barely) and decently better urban neighborhoods than Phoenix but the sprawl in ATL is a lot worse than all 3. Big density drop-off in Atlanta.
For the cities sitting on/adjacent to large bodies of water
Centered on downtown (20 mile radius)
NYC - 12,409,343
Chicago - 4,401,324
Boston - 2,960,810
Miami- 2,974,021
Seattle- 2,308,803
Baltimore - 2,222,026
The only way to calculate density would be to find out the land:water ratio in the 20 mile radius.
If the intention was to rank them in descending order, you have Boston and Miami flipped.
Also, NYC, Seattle & Baltimore centers are most dissimilar to how Chicago, Miami, & Boston centers are on the water.
If the intention was to rank them in descending order, you have Boston and Miami flipped.
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Originally Posted by rnc2mbfl
Also, NYC, Seattle & Baltimore centers are most dissimilar to how Chicago, Miami, & Boston centers are on the water.
Their centers are dissimilar at substantially smaller radial scales.
At 20 miles you have to looking at MSA/UA scale because that radius equates to 1,257 sq.mi. 20 miles puts you on the other side of the Chesapeake Bay for example.
Boston, Seattle & Baltimore all have *roughly* the same amount of water in this area. NYC is full on archipelago so it gets the nod over those three.
Miami, SF & Chicago are in a different tier regarding proportional water area.
Their centers are dissimilar at substantially smaller radial scales.
At 20 miles you have to looking at MSA/UA scale because that radius equates to 1,257 sq.mi. 20 miles puts you on the other side of the Chesapeake Bay for example.
Boston, Seattle & Baltimore all have *roughly* the same amount of water in this area. NYC is full on archipelago so it gets the nod over those three. Miami, SF & Chicago would be a tier up in proportional water area from all of them, with Miami actually having more water then land.
*all maps to scale*
NYC
Boston
Seattle
Baltimore
Chicago
Bay Area
Miami
Miami, SF, and Chicago have way more water in their circles.
Seattle's circle also includes a lot of land in Kitsap County across the Puget Sound, with the only bridge being south of the circle. That area is somewhat populated, and ferries bring commuters into town, but it's very separate.
Some demographic information based on a 25 mile radius from the city center. A special thanks to resident09 for sharing the link. I tried to adjust some for the radii where there was too much water. In the cases of Chicago, Fort Lauderdale, Miami, and Boston, I moved the zip code used to one further from the water. In the case of San Francisco, I used Oakland instead. Also important to remember: these will count some people twice. In the cases of Miami and Fort Lauderdale, Dallas and Fort Worth, Washington DC and Baltimore, and Oakland and San Jose, many people will overlap.
Happy data!
New York City - 14,696,078 (10002)
White: 5,367,519 - 36.5%
Hispanic: 4,134,986 - 28.1%
Black: 2,757,799 - 18.8%
Asian: 1,894,690 - 12.9%
Foreign Born Population
New York City: 4,989,352
Los Angeles: 3,389,525
Miami: 1,737,410
Fort Lauderdale: 1,684,135
Houston: 1,408,026
Oakland: 1,365,292
Chicago: 1,310,889
Washington DC: 1,257,023
San Jose: 1,090,106
Dallas: 1,065,886
Boston: 911,093
Seattle: 688,023
Atlanta: 613,724
Phoenix: 598,093
Philadelphia: 576,792
San Diego: 574,898
Fort Worth: 514,272
Orlando: 487,141
Las Vegas: 486,009
Sacramento: 422,952
Tampa: 418,854
Detroit: 414,789
Minneapolis: 374,103
Denver: 369,388
Baltimore: 345,199
Austin: 314,897
Portland: 308,971
San Antonio: 270,706
Charlotte: 251,765
St. Louis: 120,901
Born in Different State
Washington DC: 2,183,450
Boston: 2,187,030
New York City: 1,949,589
Phoenix: 1,759,200
Baltimore: 1,564,422
Atlanta: 1,465,636
Denver: 1,338,817
Los Angeles: 1,256,748
Las Vegas: 1,097,799
Tampa: 1,191,833
Dallas: 1,180,736
Miami: 1,166,588
Philadelphia: 1,112,283
Seattle: 1,108,430
Chicago: 1,026,385
Houston: 1,017,200
Portland: 1,016,119
Charlotte: 909,202
Orlando: 873,148
Fort Lauderdale: 807,029
Oakland: 794,996
Fort Worth: 758,478
Minneapolis: 746,957
San Diego: 582,495
Fort Worth: 571,917
St. Louis: 570,590
Detroit: 481,030
San Antonio: 480,940
San Jose: 393,440
Sacramento: 360,957
Moved from Different Country within Last 12 Months - does not account for outbound migration
New York City: 125,367
Washington DC: 60,420
Los Angeles: 59,425
Fort Lauderdale: 53,042
Houston: 48,835
Miami: 48,011
Boston: 47,090
Oakland: 43,287
Chicago: 40,227
Dallas: 38,931
San Jose: 38,504
Seattle: 37,359
Orlando: 35,930
Philadelphia: 26,244
Atlanta: 24,737
San Diego: 23,248
Tampa: 22,330
Phoenix: 21,421
Fort Worth: 19,345
Detroit: 19,075
Denver: 17,700
Baltimore: 16,144
Austin: 15,842
Sacramento: 14,168
Minneapolis: 13,919
Portland: 13,589
San Antonio: 13,195
Charlotte: 11,831
Las Vegas: 11,308
St. Louis: 9,508
Moved from Different State Within Last 12 Months - does not account for outbound migration
New York City: 214,385
Washington DC: 208,941
Phoenix: 135,101
Denver: 115,087
Atlanta: 106,636
Seattle: 106,631
Philadelphia: 103,885
Chicago: 101,422
Dallas: 100,169
Boston: 99,778
Las Vegas: 95,898
Los Angeles: 91,332
Tampa: 84,812
Portland: 82,088
Charlotte: 76,729
Houston: 75,535
Orlando: 64,760
Austin: 63,947
Fort Lauderdale: 63,421
Baltimore: 62,016
Oakland: 61,087
San Diego: 60,267
Minneapolis: 59,409
Fort Worth: 58,146
St. Louis: 52,277
San Antonio: 52,021
Miami: 42,509
San Jose: 42,498
Detroit: 38,106
Sacramento: 22,933
Seattle's circle also includes a lot of land in Kitsap County across the Puget Sound, with the only bridge being south of the circle. That area is somewhat populated, and ferries bring commuters into town, but it's very separate.
None of them are population centered.
Miami/SF aside, they’d all be higher if the radius circle was moved further inland
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