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Old 02-06-2023, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Florida
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NYC and LA for sure. Just about all the black media I consumed from that era are from those two cities.
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Old 02-06-2023, 02:33 PM
 
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And yeah Ck I think Long Island is over looked
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Old 02-06-2023, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Cross Colours. Do you give credit to New York or LA? Here's what the creators say.

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Carl Jones: We took a trip to New York because that’s where the culture was. LA didn’t really have Hip Hop music - there was some in LA, but it was really coming from NY.

TJ Walker: We just rode the Subway. We sat there and rode from Harlem to Brooklyn just watching the kids and what they wore. They were wearing these huge baggy pants that they belted - the pants were 38 and the kid was probably a size 30. We looked at them and thought it was interesting.

Carl Jones: TJ, being the artist that he is, put pen to paper and recreated the look. We said we were going to make those pants with a size 38 body, but with a size 32 waist. That’s what started it! So from the oversized pants, of course you need the oversized jacket. Now you need the oversized shirt to go with the oversized jacket. Suddenly, everything was oversized.
https://crosscolours.com/pages/cross-colours-history
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Old 02-06-2023, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Karl Kani - Grew up in Brooklyn but started his line in Crenshaw.

Cross Colours - Started in LA but based on NYC trends

Starter Jackets - Origins unclear

Box cuts - Philly

Biker shorts - Origins unclear

Tommy Hilfiger - Origins unclear

Timbs - NY/Philly

Overalls with strap down - Origins unclear

Avirex - NYC

Goggles and rolled up sweats - NYC. Popularized by DMX, LL Cool J and Method Man in the 4,3,2,1
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Old 02-06-2023, 03:20 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA>Tijuana, BC>San Antonio, TX
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Probably Compton, but amazingly during this time Compton was shifting from being America's "blackest city west of the Mississippi" to being overwhelmingly Latino. It's gone from being almost 80% black in the 80's to 27% black today.
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Old 02-06-2023, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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If you didn't have the goggles, you just weren't cool. Highly influential video. And some of DMX's most memorable bars. "You know the lights ain't comin back on, you ain't that strong, knowing you wrong. BUT YOU ASKED FOR BABY!"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAZqlaDCLSI
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Old 02-06-2023, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Los Angeles/Compton/Long Beach with all the G-funk Gangster rap is the right answer in terms of hip-hop music. Following NWA, you had Dre and Snoop emerge as superstars and both put out seminal albums and had tons of hits that defined hip-hop at the time. "Nothing but a G' Thang", "Dre Day", "Gin and Juice", etc. You had songs like Regulators by Warren G and Nate Dogg. Ice Cube, Digital Underground, DJ Quik, etc. The Bay Area got in on it to, with Too Short, Mac Dre, and E-40 (and others). And let's not forget 2pac was emerging in the early 90s and made the move from the Bay to LA in 1994 after already having put our several albums incredible albums.

The California sound was so prominent at the time, even Biggie put plenty of G-funk sound in his album "Ready to Die".
Only problem is that LA's reign on top pretty much ended once Pac died. 1996 was the end of the West's influence on a national level. NYC still had Wu, which dominated '97 even though No Limit was coming on strong. Then '98 was Hard Knock Life, Flesh of My Flesh and then later the Ruff Ryders. New York was still in the game with a lot of commercially hot albums in the late 90s while Dre, Snoop and the rest were clearly fading by that point. Dre came back hard with his 2001 album, but I consider that more 00s than I do 90s. It came out late 1999.

The late 90s was much more of a mixed bag and it became somewhat clear what direction the genre was going to take after Outkast, Goodie Mobb, Three 6 Mafia, No Limit and Cash Money hit the national scene. But New York was still very much strong during that 96-99 period.
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Old 02-06-2023, 03:44 PM
 
Location: 215
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NYC for the east coast, LA for west coast.

Was Atlanta still the black capital of the south in the early 90's? Or was it Houston? Not sure.
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Old 02-06-2023, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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And are we really going to act like there were 2-3 albums in the 90s that were more influential than The Low End Theory? This epitomizes the 90s in my opinion.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6TLWqn82J4
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Old 02-06-2023, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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And if we're talking about overall influence on the culture, it's L. Boogie with a doubt. You have to give her more credit for the natural hair movement taking off than anyone else.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y12YXVAYKjE
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