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Old 02-24-2023, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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You are missing the point..

People from northern climates are saying that southern areas "don't have winters" because the low is merely 40° and there isn't snowfall.

That logic is identical to me saying that Buffalo "doesn't have summers" because it is only in the 70s and 80s. You see, I consider that springtime weather; you have to be upper 90s and above for it to be summer.
Every place has 4 seasons.

But not every place has months-long hot summers, or months-long cold winters.

Nearly all places in the Continental US regularly experience periods where summer weather approaches that of the south, but many southern places rarely experience winter weather experienced in northern, midwestern, or mountain climates. Specifically, lasting snowfalls and extended periods below freezing.

Northerners have swimming pools, beaches, and boating that they enjoy in the summer, but southerners don't get to sled or ski in the winter without traveling far away.

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Old 02-24-2023, 08:14 PM
 
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For me winter weather would be daytime high temperatures of 59 degrees or below. Fall would be 60 to about 76 degrees. Spring is about 67 to say 82 degrees. And summer is from about 87 to 92 degrees average daily high.

I have found that in areas where the winter average daily high is around 48-49 degrees, meaning plenty of weeks in the 30s and 40s, I get tired of winter after about a month or six weeks.

Cities with average daily high around say 57 degrees typically have probably 60% wintery weeks (59 or below) and 40% warmer weeks (e.g. 60 or higher) so that's kind of borderline 4-season climate. But a town with average daily high in the low 50s, say 53 degrees, means most weeks will be in the 50s or below and thus definite 4-season climate for me.
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Old 02-25-2023, 05:53 AM
 
Location: PHX -> ATL
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You are missing the point..

People from northern climates are saying that southern areas "don't have winters" because the low is merely 40° and there isn't snowfall.

That logic is identical to me saying that Buffalo "doesn't have summers" because it is only in the 70s and 80s. You see, I consider that springtime weather; you have to be upper 90s and above for it to be summer.
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Old 02-25-2023, 06:43 AM
 
Location: OC
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You are missing the point..

People from northern climates are saying that southern areas "don't have winters" because the low is merely 40° and there isn't snowfall.

That logic is identical to me saying that Buffalo "doesn't have summers" because it is only in the 70s and 80s. You see, I consider that springtime weather; you have to be upper 90s and above for it to be summer.
High 90s means only the south has summer weather
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Old 02-25-2023, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Ga, from Minneapolis
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High 90s means only the south has summer weather
Most of the South doesn't even have consistent temps in the high 90s during summer
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Old 02-25-2023, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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LOL what? Summer days in Minneapolis are very commonly over 85ºF June through August, even September. Summers here are hot. It can get well over 100ºF during heat waves. However, no, it's not months upon months of unrelenting hell fire like in the Sunbelt states.
It "can" get cold in the South too. Climate isn't about what 'can' happen, it's what happens on average. The averages are obvious. Minneapolis doesn't get as warm as most areas even in the middle tier of states do in summer.
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Old 02-25-2023, 03:03 PM
 
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Summers in Minnesota are short.

This year it’s on a Tuesday.
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Old 02-25-2023, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Ga, from Minneapolis
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It "can" get cold in the South too. Climate isn't about what 'can' happen, it's what happens on average. The averages are obvious. Minneapolis doesn't get as warm as most areas even in the middle tier of states do in summer.
Minneapolis gets hotter than the South gets cold.
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Old 02-25-2023, 07:53 PM
 
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It "can" get cold in the South too. Climate isn't about what 'can' happen, it's what happens on average. The averages are obvious. Minneapolis doesn't get as warm as most areas even in the middle tier of states do in summer.
Every time I’ve been to the Twin Cities in the Summer it’s been pretty toasty. The humidity is often really bad as well. Not too much different than what you’d experience in the South imo.
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Old 02-25-2023, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Boilermaker Territory
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Every time I’ve been to the Twin Cities in the Summer it’s been pretty toasty. The humidity is often really bad as well. Not too much different than what you’d experience in the South imo.
Yes, you have to get closer to Lake Superior in Minnesota to have milder summer temperatures.
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