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My point was that all of San Francisco is not on the ocean. The water on the east is not ocean. That was my point, though...people are getting too technical. You can't say the east side of SF is on the ocean if Seattle isn't on the ocean. Should make sense.
My point was that ALL of a city doesn't have to be on the ocean in order for it to be considered a coastal city. That's not "too technical"; it's common sense and a basic geographical principle.
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Too technical...what water is in the Puget Sound?
Puget Sound is a region that includes many waters, starting with the Salish Sea, coming in from the ocean between Port Angeles and Victoria, B.C. Canada. Seattle is on Elliot Bay, much like San Francisco and Oakland are on San Francisco Bay. Puget Sound also includes waters like Dyes Inlet, Port Orchard, Commencement Bay, Dabob Bay, Liberty Bay, Sequim Bay and Murden Cove.
1. The actual coastlines aren't easy for big cities due to topography and/or weather.
2. When an inland deep-water port exists, you always take that.
3. Cities tend to get started around farmland, and the Puget Sound Basin and Willamette Valley are phenomenal growing areas.
There are two big bays north of the Columbia, but both are generally shallow, and they get more than twice Seattle's rainfall. The Columbia entry is extremely dangerous, having killed countless ships.
It's interesting that many Seattle residents consider their city to be coastal. The fact that it takes hours to drive to the coast from Seattle escapes them. They seem to think that Puget Sound is the coast.
If Seattle isn’t a coastal city there just aren’t many coastal cities in the world. The Puget Sound is part of the Pacific.
San Francisco is directly bordered by the Pacific ocean on the west side of the city.
It is now because it expanded into it (same for NYC) but originally the city developed on the bay side, that is where the downtown is after all. Nobody builds a city directly on the open ocean, especially with an ocean as violent as the Pacific.
It is now because it expanded into it (same for NYC) but originally the city developed on the bay side, that is where the downtown is after all. Nobody builds a city directly on the open ocean, especially with an ocean as violent as the Pacific.
It's worth noting that it's also the case that both Los Angeles and San Diego started a good distance inland from the coast.
My point was that ALL of a city doesn't have to be on the ocean in order for it to be considered a coastal city. That's not "too technical"; it's common sense and a basic geographical principle.
I understand that...it was kind of my point. There are claims here that Seattle isn't on the ocean. Well, it's on Pacific Ocean water, so it's on the ocean. Whether it be a bay or open water, it's the ocean. Common sense.
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