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I tihnk we are suggesting too many cities that aren't truly walkable. I've never been to Seattle, Portland or Denver but I highly doubt that they are truly walkable city. I've been to Pittsburgh and while it had small walkable portions, the vast majority of it was car dependant.
I'm not trying to down those cities (sometimes here in Chicago I wish I could just hp in my car and drive to certain areas)
I just don't want the OP to make a decision thinking the city is walkable when it clearly isn't.
What is your definition of "truly walkable"? I think you need to visit these cities, especially Portland, before you write them off.
We all know how welcomed these "top 10" lists are on city-data, but here is one anyway, that seems to contradict your claim. It is a Brookings institute study, so it is at least semi-valid:
What part of Seattle are you in? I've been here a decade and know of noplace in town where the bus takes you anyplace in less than half an hour, with a second bus transfer for another while. Ack!
I find it hard to believe that you take the bus regularly when you are claiming that you have to transfer every time you ride. Seriously, what routes are you taking?
What is your definition of "truly walkable"? I think you need to visit these cities, especially Portland, before you write them off.
We all know how welcomed these "top 10" lists are on city-data, but here is one anyway, that seems to contradict your claim. It is a Brookings institute study, so it is at least semi-valid:
I don't know about that Article. Atlanta more Walkable than Baltimore, St. Louis, Minneapolis, Cincinnati and Cleveland? Not even close from my experiences.
I think Minneapolis is kind of cold to be walkable on a year-round basis. Yes, I am familiar with the walkways, but that's only downtown, as far as I know.
Besides my first suggestion of Providence, a great cold weather walkable city is Toronto. Downtown has mostly underground walkways with shops and stuff but none of the homeless population or the Urine smell. Fun town too..
I don't know about that Article. Atlanta more Walkable than Baltimore, St. Louis, Minneapolis, Cincinnati and Cleveland? Not even close from my experiences.
yeah, that list is a little odd. NYC #10 LOL
Walkable cities
A Brookings Institution survey ranks the 30 biggest metropolitan areas according to the number of “walkable urban places” relative to the area’s population:
1. Washington
2. Boston
3. San Francisco
4. Denver
5. Portland, Ore.
6. Seattle
7. Chicago
8. Miami
9. Pittsburgh
10. New York
11. San Diego
12. Los Angeles
13. Philadelphia
14. Atlanta
15. Baltimore
16. St. Louis
17. Minneapolis
18. Detroit
19. Columbus, Ohio
20. Las Vegas
21. Houston
22. San Antonio
23. Kansas City, Mo.
24. Orlando, Fla.
25. Dallas
26. Phoenix
27. Sacramento, Calif.
28. Cincinnati
29. Cleveland
30. Tampa, Fla.
Walkable to me means the library, the grocery store, the church, the public trans, the drug store, the doc/hospital etc..Not walkable to a chic 500 buck a sandal shoe store.
Yeah, that list is a little whack. There are only a few cities where you could live your entire life without a car and walking, and do it without the hassle that would ultimately spur you to break down and buy a car.
I've been to Denver a ton of times, and I love the city, but I don't think most people could easily and happily live their lives without a car. They have a new train system and buses, but it's not on the level where people use it to quickly get everywhere. It's getting better, but it's certainly not on the league of New York, Boston, Chicago...
Walkable to me means the library, the grocery store, the church, the public trans, the drug store, the doc/hospital etc..Not walkable to a chic 500 buck a sandal shoe store.
yeah, but next to that shoe store is a hospital, a church, 2 drug stores, 5 bodegas (open 24 hrs), 3 restaurants, a bar/lounge and a subway stop on literally every street corner in manhattan.
there may not be as many libraries, but you can just go browse in a barnes and noble
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