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I noticed that Syracuse had a population of a little over 1.24 million within 50 mile radius of the city and it economic area population was around 2 million between the two maps.
Another city that comes to mind is Harrisburg, where its CSA has about 1.3 million people.
Granted that both have other city centers that are of a similar to small city population, but both seem to be the main city in terms of media influence and other aspects(major shopping center, sports, etc).
So, are there other cities that are similar in this regard where other criteria can illustrate a bigger influence than the metro area portrays?
Last edited by ckhthankgod; 07-16-2023 at 08:39 AM..
I noticed that Syracuse had a population of a little over 1.24 million within 50 mile radius of the city and it economic area population was around 2 million between the two maps.
Another city that comes to mind is Harrisburg, where its CSA has about 1.3 million people.
Granted that both have other city centers that are of a similar to small city population, but both seem to be the main city in terms of media influence and other aspects(major shopping center, sports, etc).
So, are there other cities that are similar in this regard where other criteria can illustrate a bigger influence than the metro area portrays?
DC and Baltimore. They have cultural differences, but function as one region economically with close to 10 million people. Everything is shared including regional costs for infrastructure with Maryland, Virginia, and DC sharing the cost for many things.
Idk if this is cheating but Canadian cities tend to be undersized compared to American ones. Like no way Oshawa isn’t in say the Toronto MSA. This really isn’t true in the prairies but Ottawa, Montreal and Vancouver are probably ~20% smaller than their MSA’s would be
Similarly Windsor does contribute to Detroit in a way the Census misses. (El Paso too)
SF Bay Area. The Census has it split into two metros which is the most bizarre thing. It functions as a single urbanized area and I don’t understand what rational basis exists to split a continuously urbanized area with fairly unified media and job commute markets into two. Methinks the Census bureau doesn’t have people out in the Bay Area.
One is the geography which makes the built environment between the three urban centers much more continuous and fluidly mobile. SF, Oakland, and SJ are very much functioning as a unit and there’s traffic in every direction between the three at rush hour. When I was trucking, DC and Baltimore had their own traffic and it didn’t seem like there was much actual commuting between the two. DC is more about the Potomac, Baltimore about the Chesapeake with the Patapsco as a connector.
Baltimore and DC kind of do their own thing. Walk into a tchotchke shop in the Bay Area, you’ll always see SF stuff. That same rack in Baltimore has Baltimore and Maryland stuff, and doesn’t seem culturally that interested in DC.
The connections and focuses just don’t feel that aligned to me the way it is in the Bay Area.
Idk if this is cheating but Canadian cities tend to be undersized compared to American ones. Like no way Oshawa isn’t in say the Toronto MSA. This really isn’t true in the prairies but Ottawa, Montreal and Vancouver are probably ~20% smaller than their MSA’s would be
Similarly Windsor does contribute to Detroit in a way the Census misses. (El Paso too)
The GGH also is contiguous with the Buffalo MSA. 30 percent of Buffalo Airports International passenger numbers are from the Toronto region. Obviously i'm not saying cross international boundaries should count towards population, but flying from above international boundaries don't matter a built up urban mass is a built up urban mass.
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