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Old 07-25-2023, 09:51 AM
 
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And when Expedia did that (converting/expanding an old biotech complex), they also improved/expanded the public park along the waterfront. It used to be a narrow corridor and now it's pretty large. That was a horse-trade of some kind.

There's a bus-only lane on 15th past the site, along with some Expedia buses. Actually when Expedia moved from Downtown Bellevue they got more central but less urban, resulting in some turnover...
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Old 07-25-2023, 11:40 AM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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People are seriously drifting away from the intent of the OP who mandated, among other things: rapid transit within at least .5 miles of an ocean, lake, or riverfront. How would Milwaukee, then, qualify? They have no rapid transit.

And how is Cleveland not high on this list? The City DOES have a rapid transit line, literally named "Waterfront Line" which goes within .01 miles of the (Cuyahoga) Riverfront's Flats East Bank, which has a hotel, residences and, yes, a boardwalk. The Waterfront rapid transit line also serves North Coast Harbor on Lake Erie. And while the lakefront area is not as built up commercially/residentially as it should be (or as densely as the Flats), there is still the Rock Hall, Great Lakes Science Center, a major restaurant, a marina (where paddle boats and jet skis can be rented), plus the landing spot of the well-known Goodtime III local cruise line... and, yeah, Browns Stadium is nearby, too.
Good points.
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Old 07-25-2023, 12:10 PM
 
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It looks like Cleveland's Waterfront Line hasn't run for two years due to construction (might reopen soon), and was infrequent when it was running. I'd put a good bus route above that, particularly one with bus-only lanes.
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Old 07-25-2023, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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Houseboats have been popular in Portland, OR, mostly along the Willamette River. There are businesses that support these communities. Portland has an extensive mass transit system too.

https://www.realtyportland.com/portland-floating-homes/
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Old 07-25-2023, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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How many people live on the NYC ferries? What kind of restaurants are setup there? Snack counters don’t count.



Yeah, Battery Park City is a big one. Select places along the Brooklyn/Queens side of the East River, too. The beaches in Brooklyn and Querns as well, though I do wonder how many offices exist along the boardwalks.

My point still stands that most of Manhattan and Staten Island and basically none of the Bronx meets the OPs criteria. Despite NYC’s large amount of coastline, only a small fraction has residences, offices, and restaurants that are right up against the water.
Yeah it’s getting better in NY

But even though NYC is not strong in this category, nearby NJ definitely is.
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Old 07-25-2023, 09:38 PM
 
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It looks like Cleveland's Waterfront Line hasn't run for two years due to construction (might reopen soon), and was infrequent when it was running. I'd put a good bus route above that, particularly one with bus-only lanes.
The Waterfront Line is supposed to open by late August in time for the Browns' season. ... The criteria wasn't good bus service, it was rapid transit. The fact that Cleveland's Waterfront Line has been temporarily down should not remove it from consideration, esp since the service was never in jeopardy.
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Old 07-26-2023, 10:19 AM
 
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If "rapid transit" means any kind of separate-ROW train, then sure. But that's an odd bar when it excludes vastly-superior service that happens to be fast, frequent buses.
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Old 07-27-2023, 06:59 PM
 
Location: La Jolla
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People are seriously drifting away from the intent of the OP who mandated, among other things: rapid transit within at least .5 miles of an ocean, lake, or riverfront. How would Milwaukee, then, qualify? They have no rapid transit.

And how is Cleveland not high on this list? The City DOES have a rapid transit line, literally named "Waterfront Line" which goes within .01 miles of the (Cuyahoga) Riverfront's Flats East Bank, which has a hotel, residences and, yes, a boardwalk. The Waterfront rapid transit line also serves North Coast Harbor on Lake Erie. And while the lakefront area is not as built up commercially/residentially as it should be (or as densely as the Flats), there is still the Rock Hall, Great Lakes Science Center, a major restaurant, a marina (where paddle boats and jet skis can be rented), plus the landing spot of the well-known Goodtime III local cruise line... and, yeah, Browns Stadium is nearby, too.
Yeah I'm questioning how many replies read the OP.

Los Angeles has the Expo Line stopping .3 miles shy of beach sand with residential only separated by boardwalks. I don't know if the OP will recognize the E line as "rapid" though.

San Diego has the Oceanside Transit center where Amtrak and commuter rail stops about 300 feet from the beach, also with residential and commercial zoned up to the boardwalk, same deal with Carlsbad transit center, Solana Beach, Encinitas station .3 miles from the beach, and then a series of intermodal light rail/commuter/Amtrak stations a few blocks from the Bay downtown.


I guess Miami and Milwaukee must have something much better than that based off the replies.
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