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Actually I think the govener of NJ should really work on developing an entire new extension of the PATH train to help low income and working class people who would probably save more using PATH than NJIT.
The PATh should be an entire network of subway lines simile to MTA if people had the right mindset.
All those agencies should be rolled into MTA and have one unified payment system.
I think people overestimate the power of cities. Like you’re not going to revive places 70 miles away. New Britain CT can’t rely on NYC. That’s a bad strategy
I think people overestimate the power of cities. Like you’re not going to revive places 70 miles away. New Britain CT can’t rely on NYC. That’s a bad strategy
New Britain is not in the NYC metro area/orbit. It's a part of the Hartford metro. The thread is about cities surrounding NYC in the NYC metro. And yes - it actually does matter to consider the region when deploying economic assets such as jobs and also infrastructure. Manhattan can't house every single person for example nor can we put all flights at LaGuardia so there needs to be regional planning.
I think people overestimate the power of cities. Like you’re not going to revive places 70 miles away. New Britain CT can’t rely on NYC. That’s a bad strategy
New Britain is more or less dependent on Hartford. Hell, Boston probably has equal influence to New Britain
Another example I thought of is Chester, PA.
A historic former industrial powerhouse less than 20 miles from City Hall in Philadelphia continues to rot away nearly void of investment besides some economic activity along the waterfront and the soccer stadium (which should have been built in Philadelphia).
Chester is minutes from the airport, easy access to 95, Amtrak, and SEPTA regional rail.
Unfortunate that Chester is close to booming Philadelphia and other thriving suburbs like Media and Swarthmore and can't seem to build off that momentum.
Another example I thought of is Chester, PA.
A historic former industrial powerhouse less than 20 miles from City Hall in Philadelphia continues to rot away nearly void of investment besides some economic activity along the waterfront and the soccer stadium (which should have been built in Philadelphia).
Chester is minutes from the airport, easy access to 95, Amtrak, and SEPTA regional rail.
Unfortunate that Chester is close to booming Philadelphia and other thriving suburbs like Media and Swarthmore and can't seem to build off that momentum.
Yes, Chester is a really unfortunate case--likely the worst case of the impacts of deindustrialization in PA, or at least Top 3. There was a lot of talk about Subaru Park being catalyst for greater revitalization (which is often the case with those kinds of developments), but over a decade after its opening, there's still far too little to show for it.
While Chester is a more extreme example, I think it's at least somewhat parallel to a lot of smaller cities in the Northeast. Basically, unless you have a critical mass of institutions (in particular, at least one larger and well-integrated college or university, a good hospital system, or a sizable HQ), small, post-industrial cities just aren't going to gather the momentum they need to turn around.
The loss of industry/manufacturing in the Mid-Atlantic and Southern New England has clearly had an impact to this day, and the knowledge economy that replaced those industries in many areas just never quite lifted all boats. Many smaller post-industrial cities are lucky to have become immigrant hubs due to their cheaper housing costs, but without A LOT more social and economic integration with their surrounding, more affluent towns, their path forward will continue to be challenging.
Yes, Chester is a really unfortunate case--likely the worst case of the impacts of deindustrialization in PA, or at least Top 3. There was a lot of talk about Subaru Park being catalyst for greater revitalization (which is often the case with those kinds of developments), but over a decade after its opening, there's still far too little to show for it.
While Chester is a more extreme example, I think it's at least somewhat parallel to a lot of smaller cities in the Northeast. Basically, unless you have a critical mass of institutions (in particular, at least one larger and well-integrated college or university, a good hospital system, or a sizable HQ), small, post-industrial cities just aren't going to gather the momentum they need to turn around.
The loss of industry/manufacturing in the Mid-Atlantic and Southern New England has clearly had an impact to this day, and the knowledge economy that replaced those industries in many areas just never quite lifted all boats. Many smaller post-industrial cities are lucky to have become immigrant hubs due to their cheaper housing costs, but without A LOT more social and economic integration with their surrounding, more affluent towns, their path forward will continue to be challenging.
Stayed in Chester once when we flew out of PHL… that was absolutely terrifying. Not for the crime, but for the condition of the area around it. Quite sad.
I would say it is definitely the worst in Greater Philadelphia. Perhaps redevelopment and pivoting itself as an airport adjacent community like Lee Vista for Orlando, Chelsea for Boston, and Elizabeth port for Newark have done would be wise for its future. Has potential.
Just flew out of PHL yesterday, absolutely love the airport. But usually stay out in Cherry Hill because of trust. Chester could be ideal for this type of modern development
Actually I think the govener of NJ should really work on developing an entire new extension of the PATH train to help low income and working class people who would probably save more using PATH than NJIT.
The PATh should be an entire network of subway lines simile to MTA if people had the right mindset.
I agree with working on PATH, but NJT trains and other commuter rail also need to be improved so they act as regional rail where it's more frequent, cheaper, and more extensive and try going for greater volumes to make up for the lower fares. Having through-running in Manhattan with merged LIRR/NJT/MNR lines would help a lot as it simplifies and should reduce the cost per mile of operation / passenger-km, but alongside that should also be lines that connect other secondary cities that do not have to go through Manhattan. I think orbital routes like one connecting through the new Tappan Zee bridge (which was built to accommodate rail, but has no service) that connect to secondary centers would be great. In South Philadelphia, they need NJT Atlantic to expand, branch, and become regional rail working with SEPTA to integrate them into SEPTA Regional Rail to actually operate as such.
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