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Old 07-27-2023, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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I guess I can say White Plains, NY and Stamford, CT are healthy places with Newark trying to grow steadily. We all know JC and Hoboken are used as just as fancy extensions of Manhattan.

But Bridgeport, New Haven, Waterbury in CT
Allentown, Scranton in PA
Trenton in NJ.
Parts of Long Island, Rockland county and duchess county.


Manhattan (and Philly if you are in NJ and PA) seems to be focal point of the entire metro area but would it better if Manhattan cooled off on the building and corporations became more open minded in investing in the surrounding cities in CT and NJ that appear to be somewhat flat?

I mean the talent pool is there and the transportation is there.
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Old 07-27-2023, 09:44 AM
 
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I thought Allentown and Bethlehem are already seeing a lot of revitalization. Not sure what's happening in Scranton though. It's a little detached. Trenton for sure should, given the location between Philadelphia and NYC and being on the nec and served by septa/njt. Kind of surprised it hasn't already, I mean it's the state capital.
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Old 07-27-2023, 09:45 AM
 
Location: On the Waterfront
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There's already regional economic associations in place to address some of this. But yeah an even deeper focus on all of these economically depressed, impoverished, post-industrial cities (and others not listed) in the region would be a good thing. Not sure it will ever be as impactful as needed being that these states all have their own problems to deal with first.
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Old 07-27-2023, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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New Haven is not a dead city by any means. Its actually pretty damn nice.
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Old 07-27-2023, 11:16 AM
 
Location: New York City
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You need to revisit Allentown and nearby Bethlehem. Those areas are the definition healthy/improving areas and quite charming.

Allentown has a steadily growing population, strong downtown investment, a growing tourism industry, nearby prestigious Lehigh University, and the Lehigh Valley is an increasingly affluent region and attractive more affordable alternative to suburban NYC and PHL.

I'd say most cities in the NYC / PHL sphere are doing well, Scranton is kinda far to be in the sphere of those areas.
Trenton is the biggest outlier in terms of where it is at vs. where it should be.
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Old 07-27-2023, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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New Haven is not a dead city by any means. Its actually pretty damn nice.
What’s going over there as far as revitalizing?
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Old 07-27-2023, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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You need to revisit Allentown and nearby Bethlehem. Those areas are the definition healthy/improving areas and quite charming.

Allentown has a steadily growing population, strong downtown investment, a growing tourism industry, nearby prestigious Lehigh University, and the Lehigh Valley is an increasingly affluent region and attractive more affordable alternative to suburban NYC and PHL.

I'd say most cities in the NYC / PHL sphere are doing well, Scranton is kinda far to be in the sphere of those areas.
Trenton is the biggest outlier in terms of where it is at vs. where it should be.
The only growth I know of the two are New Yorkers moving there. Well that’s good to know
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Old 07-27-2023, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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I thought Allentown and Bethlehem are already seeing a lot of revitalization. Not sure what's happening in Scranton though. It's a little detached. Trenton for sure should, given the location between Philadelphia and NYC and being on the nec and served by septa/njt. Kind of surprised it hasn't already, I mean it's the state capital.
Trenton, Camden and Atlantic City are cities I would love to see a boom occur.
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Old 07-27-2023, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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What’s going over there as far as revitalizing?
a lot that i couldn't remember or list, but its been in a revitalization mode since before i got to college in CT in 2012. It's honestly a very beautiful diverse little coastal city.

Very different than Waterbury - which is hellish in some areas. Bridgeport is bad too but Id still take that over the Dirty Water all day.
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Old 07-27-2023, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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a lot that i couldn't remember or list, but its been in a revitalization mode since before i got to college in CT in 2012. It's honestly a very beautiful diverse little coastal city.
I feel Bridgeport is finally on the mend, but Hartford, New London and Waterbury really need help.
Very different than Waterbury - which is hellish in some areas. Bridgeport is bad too but Id still take that over the Dirty Water all day.
Yeah, New Haven hasn't been bad for years. It used to be a basket case, but that was 30+ years ago. I feel Bridgeport is finally on the mend, but Hartford, New London and Waterbury really need help.
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