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Old 01-18-2024, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I was not really comparing them to Westwood. More, Dedham, Worcester, Framingham, Lynn, etc...

Also- Yeah which is an issue. Boston doesn't want to amend what it has or change its protocol. It wants to stay the same as it always was and has always been. When a city or place grows, you have to account for that growth. Great example? DC
Ican't blame people for this, though. Boston is a safe, clean, economically thriving area with suburbs that contain virtually NO crime and the nation's best public schools. That what were told- every single day, and its factually correct

Good luck trying to tell people who live in that environment and have seen here personal wealth quadruple in 25 years that they need to embrace change. The change just happens because the demographics and economic demand that it does.

Become DC, and people will say- so you want North Virginia traffic? DC crime? Tacky McMansions? Prince George County crime/litter/lack of planning?

And to an extent..they're actually correct. A lot of what keeps Boston and MA safe and free from the Camdens and Seat Pleasants of the world is meticulous attention to detail, measured selective growth strategies, and an OPEN discouragement of things like Fast Food, Happy Hour, Gun Stores/Gun Rights, Masive Freeways, late closing times. Its annoying but it DOES produce the desired results.

It's just that people want to run from it, but this IS true. It is more than a Hard sell to push the message "we need to make this place more habitable for people who arent as productive and orderly" when they're lives are hectic and challenging as is. Especially when the media shows horror stories of NYC everyday and you pass by a gang of oil refineries in NJ...
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Old 01-18-2024, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Taos NM
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with no end in sight.

Even if it loses the tech war (it won't), it will still revert back to being a thriving, safe, educated, green, appreciating place that it was before the Tech boom there when it was still extremely expensive. It was only the Great Recession that ever cooled things off and event hat wasn't so deep in Bostonas it was other places.
Wasn't that how Flint was in 1940 and Akron in 1910? Not saying that that's Bostons future, but it's not inevitable that things will always be rosy if the total amount of money in a local area starts to shrink.
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Old 01-18-2024, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Hahaha that's so horrible! No wonder why everyone is ditching this part of the US! You could literally cut your wage by 40%, go remote to somewhere nice like Taos or Savannah, and come out ahead financially. Although it's not really some regional thing. Basically anywhere in the US next to a bunch of office buildings is a crap deal, and that's what's getting hollowed out demand wise.

Oh the bubble will pop. When revenues stop growing, things break down. All you've seen for the last 30 years is increasing revenues.
Not Taos but...

Pittsburgh. Kansas City, Milwaukee, Philly.

And people are doing that. MA was the 7th most moved out of state last year. But that's down from 4th a year ago. The state has a hold on people. And a fantastic PR team.
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Old 01-18-2024, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Wasn't that how Flint was in 1940 and Akron in 1910? Not saying that that's Bostons future, but it's not inevitable that things will always be rosy if the total amount of money in a local area starts to shrink.
No those places didn't have Harvard, MIT, BU, BC, countless high profile hospitals, major international wealth management firms, and weren't predicated on the same type of dynamic yet ever-present industries Boston is.

Boston's economy is far, far, far more well rounded than those places where one branch could break off entirely textiles, for instance (BostonMSA is home to Saucony, New Balance, Timberland, Puma (North America), Converse, and Reebok) and not miss a beat.
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Old 01-20-2024, 02:54 AM
 
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There's a direct correlation between how techy a place is and how dull it is. San Jose is as lifeless as it gets.
I've heard Austin and Seattle called many things but dull isn't among them.
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Old 01-20-2024, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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I've heard Austin and Seattle called many things but dull isn't among them.
Austin and Seattle only really appeal to crunchy granola, techy white/east asian americans :/

Most other people stay clear of AUS and SEA.

This is pretty much what i hear
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Old 01-20-2024, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Boise, ID
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Austin and Seattle only really appeal to crunchy granola, techy white/east asian americans :/

Most other people stay clear of AUS and SEA.

This is pretty much what i hear
LOL, Seattle's demographics are almost identical to Bergen County, which are both very similar to Austin.

Seattle and Austin are both tech hubs, so of course, there are a lot of techies. Crunchy just means liberal, yes?
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Old 01-20-2024, 09:28 AM
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Location: Flovis
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I've heard Seattle called dull plenty of times. For ages.
Never heard Austin called dull, just things like sprawly and pretentious. But nobody says it's boring.

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Old 01-20-2024, 09:31 AM
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Location: Flovis
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LOL, Seattle's demographics are almost identical to Bergen County, which are both very similar to Austin.

Seattle and Austin are both tech hubs, so of course, there are a lot of techies. Crunchy just means liberal, yes?
I think crunchy means hipster liberal. Ppl who Like healthy food stores, taco trucks, trendy clothes, vinyl records, etc.
Edit-some sources say crunchy means hipster, but most sources say it means someone who is eco conscious. Ya know, buys sustainable clothes and food.

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Old 01-20-2024, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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LOL, Seattle's demographics are almost identical to Bergen County, which are both very similar to Austin.

Seattle and Austin are both tech hubs, so of course, there are a lot of techies. Crunchy just means liberal, yes?
Ehh Bergen County is 23% Latino and is an extremely suburban county outside of the principal city (NYC) which has no demographic similarity to Seattle
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