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Exactly. It didn't help when the mentally-challenged governor stated that "mostly rocks and cows" existed outside the liberal bubble of the Twin Cities.
The Voting Rights Act requires that some of Georgia's districts are constructed such that Black voters have sufficient numbers to choose their representative. Even if this law wasn't a factor, Atlanta has such a large and growing critical mass of (heavily but not only Black) Democratic voters that trying to completely stifle their voice would backfire on Republicans.
As an aside, there is actually a solid blue district in central metro Austin for this decade (the 37th). Conceding that one helps keep most of the surrounding districts safe for Republicans. One day Republicans in Tennessee may have to make a similar concession in Nashville, but they can get away with dividing the city for now.
So Lloyd Doggett is back? Good for them. I'm also glad they kept the new blue one in Katy. First time I felt my vote counted.
Texas has brought up the topic of secession repeatedly in the past, and recently as well.
Just like Californians have been doing, but that is just a fantasy by a very small minority of wishful wannabes.
But Texas was once a real functioning & recognized independent nation with its own navy for almost a decade.
Nothing like the faux Bear Flag Republic.
Definitely Georgia. The state hated Atlanta before the 2020 election, but now, it's much worse IMO.
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Is it because of perceived corruption and incompetence, or political disagreements? Georgia is still Republican run at a state level so probably not the latter.
There is much animosity towards ‘Atlanta’ by much of the rest of the state of Georgia (particularly in rural areas) because of stark political, social, cultural and demographic differences between the greater Atlanta metropolitan area (which continues to experience an exploding level of diversity in seemingly every way imaginable) and rural parts of the state which continue to be dominated by very deeply conservative whites.
Deeply conservative white rural Georgia residents have animosity towards ‘Atlanta’ because they feel that the continued explosive growth of the greater Atlanta metropolitan area (or metro Atlanta) is turning the state of Georgia from the white conservative dominated state that it has been since its inception to a state that will be dominated by a progressive coalition of multiracial progressives in the not-too-distant future.
And many of the deeply conservative rural whites that are unhappy at these ongoing political, social, cultural and demographic changes in the state are also unhappy with Georgia’s seemingly conservative Republican dominated state government for openly inviting into the state the major corporate business interests that they feel are generating those dramatic changes.
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I saw the election result map - outside of Atlanta, Savannah, and Augusta everything else is red. Most of the animosity against the state likely comes from within Atlanta, not the countryside.
Historically much of the animosity towards Georgia state government has indeed come from rural areas which historically have (and largely continue) to dominate the state’s politics.
Georgia politicians historically have achieved much success by running ‘anti-Atlanta’ campaigns against an ‘Atlanta establishment’ that in the minds of many Georgia voters has consisted of Georgia state government, the Atlanta corporate business community and an Atlanta proper center-left municipal government which has been deeply despised by a Georgia electorate that historically has been dominated by very deeply conservative rural voters.
From after the end of World War II until about after the Great Recession, much of the animosity towards the ‘Atlanta establishment’ (which in the minds of many includes Georgia state government) has also come from deeply conservative white residents in the increasingly expansive metro Atlanta outer suburbs and exurbs.
The explosively fast growing number of Black, Latino, Asian and multiracial residents in the Atlanta suburbs (along with non-white residents in the state of Georgia as a whole) don’t necessarily seem to have anywhere near as much animosity towards the ‘Atlanta establishment’ as a whole as conservative white suburbanites and exurbanites may seem to often express. Though, non-white residents will express their disapproval and displeasure with individual state government policies that they think impacts them negatively.
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Depends how you frame it. If we're taking 'Atlanta' to mean 'the electorate of Atlanta' or the 'voting public of Atlanta', then Georgia would be a top contender. Marjorie Taylor Greene v Stacey Abrams! But if we're taking 'Atlanta' to mean the state government itself (I never have heard 'Atlanta' used in this way, whereas 'Albany' (Albany NY, not Albany GA, heh) often IS used as shorthand to refer to NY state govt), then your point is taken
Many Georgia residents use ‘Atlanta’ to talk about either the Georgia state government and/or Atlanta’s large corporate-dominated business community (which often may wield a large amount of influence over Georgia’s generally exceedingly business-friendly state government) and/or the City of Atlanta proper (whose progressive and moderate political, social and cultural leanings historically have stood out like a sore thumb in a historically very deeply conservative state like Georgia) and/or the center-left municipal government of the City of Atlanta proper and/or the greater Atlanta metropolitan area (whose increasingly high level of diversity often may stand in stark contrast to many homogeneous rural areas).
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Side note--is the city of Macon itself red? Seems like that and the city of Columbus GA would or could be blue. I've never looked at a GA 2020 electoral map (or Senate runoff vote map, for that matter). Plus Athens GA would have to be blue
Outside of metro Atlanta (where nine counties now lean Democratic), Athens (Clarke County), Savannah (Chatham County) and the Fall Line cities of Augusta (Richmond County), Columbus (Muscogee County) and Macon (Bibb County) are other principal cities in the state that lean Democratic.
So Lloyd Doggett is back? Good for them. I'm also glad they kept the new blue one in Katy. First time I felt my vote counted.
Lloyd Doggett has represented the 35th district which includes part of both Austin and San Antonio for many years. Greg Casar represents the new 37th district which is entirely in Austin. But parts of north and west Austin are still in gerrymandered red districts that include communities a couple hundred miles away.
Somewhat surprised about Boston only getting two votes.
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Austin locals have known for at least 20 years that Dirty 6th Street is for tourists & thugs.
Plenty of other areas are preferable for safe nightlife in the Capital City.
Yep. Nothing but trouble.
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There is much animosity towards ‘Atlanta’ by much of the rest of the state of Georgia (particularly in rural areas) because of stark political, social, cultural and demographic differences between the greater Atlanta metropolitan area (which continues to experience an exploding level of diversity in seemingly every way imaginable) and rural parts of the state which continue to be dominated by very deeply conservative whites.
Deeply conservative white rural Georgia residents have animosity towards ‘Atlanta’ because they feel that the continued explosive growth of the greater Atlanta metropolitan area (or metro Atlanta) is turning the state of Georgia from the white conservative dominated state that it has been since its inception to a state that will be dominated by a progressive coalition of multiracial progressives in the not-too-distant future.
And many of the deeply conservative rural whites that are unhappy at these ongoing political, social, cultural and demographic changes in the state are also unhappy with Georgia’s seemingly conservative Republican dominated state government for openly inviting into the state the major corporate business interests that they feel are generating those dramatic changes.
Historically much of the animosity towards Georgia state government has indeed come from rural areas which historically have (and largely continue) to dominate the state’s politics.
Georgia politicians historically have achieved much success by running ‘anti-Atlanta’ campaigns against an ‘Atlanta establishment’ that in the minds of many Georgia voters has consisted of Georgia state government, the Atlanta corporate business community and an Atlanta proper center-left municipal government which has been deeply despised by a Georgia electorate that historically has been dominated by very deeply conservative rural voters.
From after the end of World War II until about after the Great Recession, much of the animosity towards the ‘Atlanta establishment’ (which in the minds of many includes Georgia state government) has also come from deeply conservative white residents in the increasingly expansive metro Atlanta outer suburbs and exurbs.
The explosively fast growing number of Black, Latino, Asian and multiracial residents in the Atlanta suburbs (along with non-white residents in the state of Georgia as a whole) don’t necessarily seem to have anywhere near as much animosity towards the ‘Atlanta establishment’ as a whole as conservative white suburbanites and exurbanites may seem to often express. Though, non-white residents will express their disapproval and displeasure with individual state government policies that they think impacts them negatively.
Many Georgia residents use ‘Atlanta’ to talk about either the Georgia state government and/or Atlanta’s large corporate-dominated business community (which often may wield a large amount of influence over Georgia’s generally exceedingly business-friendly state government) and/or the City of Atlanta proper (whose progressive and moderate political, social and cultural leanings historically have stood out like a sore thumb in a historically very deeply conservative state like Georgia) and/or the center-left municipal government of the City of Atlanta proper and/or the greater Atlanta metropolitan area (whose increasingly high level of diversity often may stand in stark contrast to many homogeneous rural areas).
Outside of metro Atlanta (where nine counties now lean Democratic), Athens (Clarke County), Savannah (Chatham County) and the Fall Line cities of Augusta (Richmond County), Columbus (Muscogee County) and Macon (Bibb County) are other principal cities in the state that lean Democratic.
Way back when, I watched a movie called "legend of Baggar Vance" with Matt Damon and Will Smith. Setting is during the Great Depression. They were talking about golfers from the south and someone brought up a golfer from Atlanta and the group chided and said ''no, we mean the real south!!"
Way back when, I watched a movie called "legend of Baggar Vance" with Matt Damon and Will Smith. Setting is during the Great Depression. They were talking about golfers from the south and someone brought up a golfer from Atlanta and the group chided and said ''no, we mean the real south!!"
Yeah. Your comment raises the point that many people outside of ‘Atlanta’ (particularly in rural Georgia) historically have not and often continue to not consider metro Atlanta (particularly up to about a roughly 15-county urbanized area in the heart of the roughly 30-40 county greater Atlanta metro area region) as being part of ‘the real Georgia’ and ‘the real South’ because of the extremely large number of non-Southern transplants and international immigrants living there.
Though some irony seems to be that it appears to get harder and harder for rural Georgians to say that ‘Atlanta’ is not part of ‘the real Georgia’ and ‘the real South’ when Atlanta’s metropolitan population now makes up like something close to about 60% of Georgia’s entire population and when Atlanta has had a very noticeable economic and developmental impact on the entire northern half of the state. Much of the northern half of the state of Georgia outside of metro Atlanta (even 50-100 miles from Downtown Atlanta) seems to feel like exurban Atlanta with all of the development going up that far outside of the Atlanta city/metro.
Atlanta has even had a very noticeable economic and developmental impact on some key southern parts of the state like the Savannah and Brunswick seaports which in recent decades have experienced massive growth because of the growth of the metro Atlanta economy which uses those international seaports to export consumer goods to and import consumer goods from the rest of the world.
A city that hasn't been mentioned in this thread, but Madison, WI. Democrats, and moderate Republicans in Wisconsin absolutely HATE the state Republican Party thanks to Scott Walker, and the antics of the state GOP leading the state for a dozen years. And the rural Wisconsinites, and those from the WOW Counties absolutely hates Madison due to being home to a very liberal University/very progressive politics. Although ironically the WOW counties have more people than Dane County.
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Reason: More clearer brief explanation of why Republicans do not like Madison, WI
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