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I just don't understand the New York, New York and Brooklyn, New York thing. Isn't Brooklyn part of NYC? Isn't it one of the five boroughs? That's just ludicrous if you ask me. Could of been room for another city on the list. I blame Forbes. The 20 Happiest Cities To Work In Right Now | Forbes
I just don't understand the New York, New York and Brooklyn, New York thing. Isn't Brooklyn part of NYC? Isn't it one of the five boroughs? That's just ludicrous if you ask me. Could of been room for another city on the list. I blame Forbes. The 20 Happiest Cities To Work In Right Now | Forbes
As a native New Yorker, that bothers the hell out of me and I'm not really sure why. I also hate it when people on C-D try to compare Brooklyn to other cities (Brooklyn vs. Chicago, Brooklyn vs. Philadelphia, etc.). For all its merits, Brooklyn simply isn't a complete city and would have some very serious work to do to become one if Manhattan were to spontaneously explode.
As a native New Yorker, that bothers the hell out of me and I'm not really sure why. I also hate it when people on C-D try to compare Brooklyn to other cities (Brooklyn vs. Chicago, Brooklyn vs. Philadelphia, etc.). For all its merits, Brooklyn simply isn't a complete city and would have some very serious work to do to become one if Manhattan were to spontaneously explode.
While I agree with the OP that Brooklyn shouldn't be on the list, I don't get this attitude at all. What "serious work" does Brooklyn have to do to become a "complete" city? Brooklyn was the third largest city in the country when it was a separate city in the first place. It still has all of the amenities that would make a place a city... even its own city hall, separate public library system, postal address, etc. Granted, it is not a city in administrative sense, and that's the reason it should not be on the list, not because it is not a "complete" city.. whatever that means.
While I agree with the OP that Brooklyn shouldn't be on the list, I don't get this attitude at all. What "serious work" does Brooklyn have to do to become a "complete" city? Brooklyn was the third largest city in the country when it was a separate city in the first place. It still has all of the amenities that would make a place a city... even its own city hall, separate public library system, postal address, etc. Granted, it is not a city in administrative sense, and that's the reason it should not be on the list, not because it is not a "complete" city.. whatever that means.
If Manhattan were gone and Brooklyn were independent, it would be virtually tied with Chicago as the second-biggest city in America, after No. 1 Los Angeles (remember, in this model, New York City doesn't exist). And what do you get in the second-biggest city in America? You get a downtown that's nowhere near up to par with cities of comparable size. You get a job market that would be considered a national joke. (I lived in New York City for 14 years, up until three years ago, and didn't know a single person who worked in Brooklyn, except my brother, who had an unpaid internship there working for a hipster clothing company for around six months -- a company that was a hot commodity at the time but no longer exists.) You don't have the world-class arts and entertainment that a city of that size demands -- no great symphony, no great ballet, no great opera, no great theater scene. You have a very good museum in the Brooklyn Museum, but one that's perpetually struggling, doesn't have the marquee works of art you'd expect to see in such a place and isn't joined by any critical mass of comparable institutions. You don't have a seriously high-end shopping drag, like a Fifth Avenue or a Michigan Avenue or a Rodeo Drive.
Now, you may say: "Well, Brooklyn doesn't have these things because Manhattan exists. If Manhattan were nuked off the face of the earth, Brooklyn would get them." But that's my point.
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