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I don't know if that's the same kind of "hip" or "cool". South Beach is more thongs and Lamborghinis. Austin is a whole different thing. Like Portland or Seattle. More locally for you, Steve-o, think Wicker Park.
Exactly. "Cool" doesn't mean let's have as much debauchery as possible. Although you're free to do that in Austin.
don't knock it, models aside, they've still got the white dreadies on skateboards, dj's tattooed freaks etc..
you should check out the Winter Music Conference (WMC)
I LOVE South Beach. My grandparents retired there. It's just totally different vibe. It's full of plastic surgery, exotic cars, and drugs. It's more like Hollywood than Portland, Seattle, Austin.
I LOVE South Beach. My grandparents retired there. It's just totally different vibe. It's full of plastic surgery, exotic cars, and drugs. It's more like Hollywood than Portland, Seattle, Austin.
Maybe I'm just going off media images somewhat, because Chicago isn't portrayed as "cool" like Austin, Portland etc.
But of all my young friends, none of them wanted to go to Chicago to be "cool" only to work. I know lots of people who switched to vegan lifestyles, wanted to go to Austin and ride their bikes through the hills every day and enjoy the sun. That to me is cool. Or go join some artist commune. Also all the nude sunbathing allowed there. You just don't get that stuff in Chicago from what I hear.
I mean isn't it a prerequisite to be a cool place that you can't have brutally cold winters and no sun? It just scares away certain people.
Well, different strokes. I generally like to visit a place before crafting an opinion, myself. Call me crazy. I just worry about seeming uninformed otherwise. I'm OCD like that.
Watch "High Fidelity". Work backwards from that.
(I assume that since you're from Cali, you are only interested in movies. That's correct, is it not?)
Well, different strokes. I generally like to visit a place before crafting an opinion, myself. Call me crazy. I just worry about seeming uninformed otherwise. I'm OCD like that.
Watch "High Fidelity". Work backwards from that.
(I assume that since you're from Cali, you are only interested in movies. That's correct, is it not?)
I told you in the other thread I had been there - it was just winter and I had a terrible time. I'm willing to give it a chance. I just didn't get a cool vibe there.
I told you in the other thread I had been there - it was just winter and I had a terrible time. I'm willing to give it a chance. I just didn't get a cool vibe there.
It's a big city. You've just got to go to the right neighborhood (and know where to go within those neighborhoods). I can see how, if you were, say, Downtown, you'd wonder where the cool kids were. It's a big city, though. I'm sure some neighborhoods would surprise you.
Maybe I'm just going off media images somewhat, because Chicago isn't portrayed as "cool" like Austin, Portland etc.
But of all my young friends, none of them wanted to go to Chicago to be "cool" only to work. I know lots of people who switched to vegan lifestyles, wanted to go to Austin and ride their bikes through the hills every day and enjoy the sun. That to me is cool. Or go join some artist commune. Also all the nude sunbathing allowed there. You just don't get that stuff in Chicago from what I hear.
I mean isn't it a prerequisite to be a cool place that you can't have brutally cold winters and no sun? It just scares away certain people.
I completely agree with you about Austin/Portland v. South Beach, and I don't want turn this into yet another Chicago weather argument, but a quick point here: Chicago can't be "cool" 'cause it has no sun, but Portland (and, in the 90s, Seattle) could be? Huh? Dude, Chicago gets more sun than those places. To be honest, I moved here during the winter - which is gray and very cold - and I was kinda surprised as to how sunny it is here from around mid-April onwards.
Also, ever been to Wicker Park, Pilsen or Logan Square in Chicago? Ever been to Williamsburg, Greenpoint or Bushwick in New York? Hipsters can survive the winter. I do think perhaps Austin/SoCal may attract a more outdoorsy type of hipster than Chicago/NYC would. But we're talking about a subculture that fetishizes scarves, for chrissakes.
As for me, I've never been to Austin. It always struck me as the kind of place that would be fun to spend a few days in, but I doubt I'd want to live there. I like living in a big city with all kinds of people, like Chicago or New York, and not holed up with my "hip" friends in "the coolest/hippest town in America," wherever that may be. But that's just me. To each his or her own.
Easy brother cool is in the mind of the beholder.
If you love your city and think it's cool than
keep telling yourself that and it will be in your mind.
But why so serious.........
You know there is a fine line between cool and pretentious.
Whats wrong with just being fun.. and we both know Chicago
is that, and I have the lack of memories and a lot of kids to prove it.
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