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Old 01-16-2009, 09:19 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, United States
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Yes. Some western cities have large amounts of undeveloped land within their boundaries, so are actually more dense in the areas where the people live, than the numbers show. Denver annexed a large amount of undeveloped land to build its airport, so the pop. density there computes as lower than it actually is.
similar here.. about 50% of the city limits are "seawater" and swamp so you have places where there maybe 0-5 people in an entire zip code. The true density should fall under or around Miami somewhere
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Old 01-16-2009, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I debunked the urban legend that suburbanites all drive 8 (or 10, or whatever) miles to buy a gallon of milk in metro Denver with this thread:

//www.city-data.com/forum/denve...ease-vote.html
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Old 01-16-2009, 09:27 AM
 
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No I've simply been to those cities and driving around there entire time was no fun. Nor were the desolate sidewalks and sterile office park nature of those places.

Most sprawl cities are landscaping nightmares that were poorly planned.....having a carton of milk 5 minutes away doesn't change that.

But we all have different tastes so who can say which is the most perfect....
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Old 01-16-2009, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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good point. why drive 1,2 or 8 miles to get a gallon of milk, when you can walk 2 blocks? or on your block in your case.
I live in Houston and I WALK one block to get a gallon of milk.
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Old 01-16-2009, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Houston Texas
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No I've simply been to those cities and driving around there entire time was no fun. Nor were the desolate sidewalks and sterile office park nature of those places.

Most sprawl cities are landscaping nightmares that were poorly planned.....

But we all have different tastes so who can say which is the most perfect....
There is a problem here as well. There are alot of areas of so called sprawlvilles where you DON'T have to drive the entire time. There are also sterile office parks in areas of the Boston metro as well as strip malls and all the other things that Northeasterners think only exist in the sunbelt.
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Old 01-16-2009, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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No I've simply been to those cities and driving around there entire time was no fun. Nor were the desolate sidewalks and sterile office park nature of those places.

Most sprawl cities are landscaping nightmares that were poorly planned.....having a carton of milk 5 minutes away doesn't change that.

But we all have different tastes so who can say which is the most perfect....
First, suburbanites all drive their behemoth SUVs 10 miles to buy a gallon of milk and nothing more. (As if any of us have time to do THAT!) Then, when shown that is not the case, they're bad anyway, "desolate" and "sterile", but hey, "we all have different tastes". What cities are you talking about?
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Old 01-16-2009, 09:36 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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There is one problem with this comment though. I live in Houston near downtown and I can walk out my door and have all those amenities very close, yet also have my own space with a small yard. The best of both worlds. Not that dependent on my car either and yes I have lived in a so called "real city" and no it isn't as good as here.

I think people in so called "real cities" just complain about stereotyped "sprawlvilles" because A) they are jealous of the freedom we have and space we have B) becuase they can't comprehend the fact that their so dense urban cities have as much car dependent sprawl as these sunbelt cities (don't many people commute from outside 495 to Boston, don't even TRY and say no either) and C) they have never been to one of these cities


great statment.
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Old 01-16-2009, 09:37 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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There is one problem with this comment though. I live in Houston near downtown and I can walk out my door and have all those amenities very close, yet also have my own space with a small yard. The best of both worlds. Not that dependent on my car either and yes I have lived in a so called "real city" and no it isn't as good as here.

I think people in so called "real cities" just complain about stereotyped "sprawlvilles" because A) they are jealous of the freedom we have and space we have B) becuase they can't comprehend the fact that their so dense urban cities have as much car dependent sprawl as these sunbelt cities (don't many people commute from outside 495 to Boston, don't even TRY and say no either) and C) they have never been to one of these cities


great statment. Yet I still like density
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Old 01-16-2009, 09:37 AM
 
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Of course there are...I have seen plenty. But thankfully for my tastes that style has no direct part in my daily life.
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Old 01-16-2009, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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ok, ok, so my theory has been debunked
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