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07-08-2009, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Hollywood Inquirer
The definition of the word "Coast"
1.the land next to the sea; seashore: the rocky coast of Maine.
2.the region adjoining it: They live on the coast, a few miles from the sea.
This is not a coast rather a big fat LAKE!!!
isn't this not the Midwest? I don't see any body of ocean that signifys the Midwest as a coast. There's a giant lake, but that's not a ocean. Freaking Midwesterns!  |
Okay, we'll annex Maryland.  |
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07-08-2009, 10:25 PM
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Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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Originally Posted by RonnieJonez
The only "major" cities in the midwest are Chicago and Minneapolis, Detroit is also major, but not really midwest. The others are large regional cities, but calling them "major" is a bit of a stretch.
I've been to Milwaukee, Omaha, etc, nothing major about those beyond having some respectable size. It's always the 'big regional cities' that seem to have a chip on their shoulder and feel the need to split hairs about anything and everything.
When you're in a major city, you know it.
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If Detroit's not a Midwest city, then what is it? East Coast?
Detroit is definitely a Midwestern city and is home to 5.5 million people, I would place it above Minneapolis in terms of regional importance.
Hey Ronnie, aren't you from Iowa? You're not exactly someone I would consider to be an authority on what constitutes a major city, especially since your state doesn't have any major cities to speak of. |
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07-08-2009, 10:49 PM
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Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by jjacobeclark
What I can't figure out is why so many people are defending Omaha and Des Moines in the first place. To me it's not splitting hairs to say Milwaukee is more of a city than Omaha, it's calling a spade a spade. Des Moines and Omaha are more along the lines of Madison or Grand Rapids, not the real major cities of the Midwest like Milwaukee, Detroit, Cleveland, St. Louis, Indianapolis, Kansas City, Cincinnati, Minneapolis, etc.
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However, Grand Rapids and Madison, Omaha and Des Moines aren't over shadowed by nearby cities that are much larger and with in their own state. |
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07-08-2009, 10:57 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Originally Posted by jjacobeclark
If Detroit's not a Midwest city, then what is it? East Coast?
Detroit is definitely a Midwestern city and is home to 5.5 million people, I would place it above Minneapolis in terms of regional importance.
Hey Ronnie, aren't you from Iowa? You're not exactly someone I would consider to be an authority on what constitutes a major city, especially since your state doesn't have any major cities to speak of.
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Detroit above Minneapolis? I . . . don't . . . think . . . so! Detroit is a rust-belt city that is struggling to find a new identity since the decline of auto making (some cutbacks just recently as well as those of fairly long-standing duration). Minneapolis is a vibrant city with a decent economy for a country in recession.
What does being from Iowa have to do with knowing what a major city is? |
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07-08-2009, 11:02 PM
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Location: Omaha
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Originally Posted by jjacobeclark
Detroit is definitely a Midwestern city and is home to 5.5 million people, I would place it above Minneapolis in terms of regional importance.
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On what grounds? Other than the fact that you don't know any better. If you say the auto industry I'm gonna have to cyber ***** slap you.  |
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07-09-2009, 02:00 PM
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Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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Originally Posted by Go Ne
However, Grand Rapids and Madison, Omaha and Des Moines aren't over shadowed by nearby cities that are much larger and with in their own state.
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That's the worst argument I've ever heard in my life. Plenty of states don't have any major cities like Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, North Dakota, South Dakota, Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, and West Virginia. Just because those states lack a major city doesn't mean you can artificially elevate the status of a medium-sized city like Des Moines or Omaha to major city status based solely on geographic isolation. |
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07-09-2009, 02:01 PM
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Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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Originally Posted by Katiana
Detroit above Minneapolis? I . . . don't . . . think . . . so! Detroit is a rust-belt city that is struggling to find a new identity since the decline of auto making (some cutbacks just recently as well as those of fairly long-standing duration). Minneapolis is a vibrant city with a decent economy for a country in recession.
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City Mayors reviews the richest cities in the world in 2005
Detroit
population 5.5 million
GDP $203 billion
Minneapolis-St. Paul
population 3.5 million
GDP $155 billion
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Originally Posted by Katiana
What does being from Iowa have to do with knowing what a major city is?
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Being from Iowa has everything to do with knowing what a major city is. What if he's never left the state of Iowa in his entire life? Would you still trust his opinion on what constitutes a major city? Ronnie was trying to say that Milwaukee was no more of a major city than Omaha, and I strongly disagree with that statement. For one thing, Milwaukee has more than double the population in its metro than Omaha.
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On what grounds? Other than the fact that you don't know any better. If you say the auto industry I'm gonna have to cyber ***** slap you. |
See above. |
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07-09-2009, 04:16 PM
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Location: Omaha
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Originally Posted by jjacobeclark
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Population is a bad argument here. Detroit is starting to become a largely unproductive population and greatly over subsidized on a state and federal level.
GDP is also a sham. The GDP of Detroit has been falling and is setting up for a solid plunge.
Detroit's relevance has been and will continue to decline. |
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07-09-2009, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by skyegirl
How about "The states nobody actually chooses to live in"? Just kidding of course...sorta |
Sixty-six million people live in the Midwest - that's nobody? |
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07-09-2009, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by That-Guy
Population is a bad argument here. Detroit is starting to become a largely unproductive population and greatly over subsidized on a state and federal level.
GDP is also a sham. The GDP of Detroit has been falling and is setting up for a solid plunge.
Detroit's relevance has been and will continue to decline.
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Business travel ranking: Business and pleasure | The Economist -- Well it looks like Detroit was ranked 7th in the world for Business Travels.
Detroit's inner city relevance has been declining. The area still holds a sizable amount of Fortune 500 companies and is VERY relevant. To dismiss it's relevancy isn't smart. |
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