Are Maryland and Delaware part of the South or North? (plantation, eat)

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by ainulinale

Go to Dallas, Miami and LA and see how fast-paced life can be down there. It's not simply a characteristic of the East, but a characteristic of large cities.

The suburbs in the Northeast have a quick pace of life. That can't be said for Orange County (relatively relaxed), or the suburbs in Texas. And calling Miami "fast-paced" is quite funny.

The things that makes the Northeast so quick are:

1. Population density. You have 2 of among the most densely populated states next to NYC (NJ and Conn), not to mention RI and the Boston area, as well as southern Jersey and the Philly area. Very dense. It turns things into a rat race. Quick fact *over 10% of the nations population lives in the NY Metropolitan area*

2. Number 1 leads to impatience. Again, I'll note the rat race mentality.

3. NYC. It's a city that never sleeps, really. At any time of the night, 365 days a year, there's somewhere you can go to do anything. Many take advantage of that, and tourism definitely adds to it so it's not just the locals.

I'm not saying we're the only place in the nation that has a fast pace, but when you put some of the nation's largest cities a hop, skip and a jump from each other, it multiplies the pace by however many cities there are in that one small region. This extends the fast pace past just the city itself.

PS - I was kidding about the wannabes! I joke with my NoVA friends about it.

[Billiam]

Originally Posted by blueva

Are you talking about DC the City? or the entire Metro Area?


Alexandria , VA would not be DC, though. If we talk about DC including "NOVA" then thats something a little different.

NOVA is not Northeast, IMO. Never will be. No matter how transient it gets.

Im just talking about the city

Originally Posted by blueva

How is the Mid-Atlantic a sub region of the Northeast and not the South?
NC is sometimes included in the Mid-Atlantic zone too. Are you saying NC is NE too? And even SC has been in the Mid-Atlantic (banking zone)

Also, you are wrong about Southrons wanting to include DC as part of the South. Many see it as North now.But I see it as South because I grew up near there and KNOW more about the area.

When they are "selling the South" - they will include DE and MD as part of the picture- but to me MD and DE are BORDER STATES. They are not truly Northeastern states.

I have been up Nawth. Do you think DC is like Buffalo, NY? LOL.

I dont want to be rude about it though. That would be un-Southern.

because it relates more with the North than the south, culturally. I don't consider anything past nova the mid atlantic. i am not wrong about that part, its true, it happens sometimes when, like you said "selling the south". Buffalo and DC are very differnt. Are Richmond and Savannah the same?

Originally Posted by ainulinale

Do you just try and be an irritant? I'm not excluding DC Bmore or Pittsburgh from the Northeast. I was simply addressing your strange reasoning. Mostly German when it comes to white people...I thought this would be obvious considering that fact that most cities have a lot of blacks and metro areas have a lot of whites.

Ok ok im sorry im a bit heated ( i really shouldnt feed the troll).But Strange resaoning? All i said was that basically everything was the same. you're right about the white population, but Baltimore has a huge Jewish population, a lot like New York. it does relate in many ways,demographically included. Although the main group in New york is Dominicans. Are the rest of NE cities mostly Dominican?

[ainulinale]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

The suburbs in the Northeast have a quick pace of life. That can't be said for Orange County (relatively relaxed), or the suburbs in Texas. And calling Miami "fast-paced" is quite funny.

The things that makes the Northeast so quick is:

1. Population density. You have 2 of among the most densely populated states next to NYC (NJ and Conn), not to mention RI and the Boston area, as well as southern Jersey and the Philly area. Very dense. It turns things into a rat race. Quick fact *over 10% of the nations population lives in the NY Metropolitan area*

2. Number 1 leads to impatience. Again, I'll note the rat race mentality.

3. NYC. It's a city that never sleeps, really. At any time of the night, 365 days a year, there's somewhere you can go to do anything. Many take advantage of that, and tourism definitely adds to it so it's not just the locals.

I'm not saying we're the only place in the nation that has a fast pace, but when you put some of the nation's largest cities a hop, skip and a jump from each other, it multiplies the pace by however many cities there are in that one small region. This extends the fast pace past just the city itself.

Miami has the most reported road rage of any city in the U.S...the impatience you're talking about?
I suppose I simply don't define the Northeast in terms of it's pace of living.

[blueva]

Originally Posted by Billiam

Im just talking about the city




because it relates more with the North than the south, culturally. I don't consider anything past nova the mid atlantic. i am not wrong about that part, its true, it happens sometimes when, like you said "selling the south". Buffalo and DC are very differnt. Are Richmond and Savannah the same?



Ok ok im sorry im a bit heated ( i really shouldnt feed the troll).But Strange resaoning? All i said was that basically everything was the same. you're right about the white population, but Baltimore has a huge Jewish population, a lot like New York. it does relate in many ways,demographically included. Although the main group in New york is Dominicans. Are the rest of NE cities mostly Dominican?

LOL. Actually - culturally Richmond and Savannah are quite the same! Not saying Richmond is quite as Southron as Savannah - but... the older folks in Richmond- the women walk around hats in white gloves and pearls and go into the super market that way. Lots of talk about their "daddies" and Going to the Rivah". etc

Anyways, I think we will just have to agree that we can't agree on anything, lol.

That being said- I love Washington DC- whether its considered North, South, or Below the Equator- its a great city!

[Spade]

Originally Posted by blueva

The Mid-Atlantic is not the Northeast, though.

I didn't say it was. But it is not the southeast ever. I been and lived in the southeast. DC and Maryland are nowhere near that. I can live with the South Atlantic moniker. But DC and MD are not Southeastern.

[blueva]

Originally Posted by ainulinale

Miami has the most reported road rage of any city in the U.S...the impatience you're talking about?
I suppose I simply don't define the Northeast in terms of it's pace of living.

And Guess what? Miami is full of New Yorker retirees! LOL

[blueva]

Originally Posted by Spade

I didn't say it was. But it is not the southeast ever. I been and lived in the southeast. DC and Maryland are nowhere near that. I can live with the South Atlantic moniker. But DC and MD are not Southeastern.

Well I cant argue for DC and Maryland. Im speaking as a Virginian- so thats my perspective. As a Virginian, I feel I have more in common with someone from The Carolinas or Georgia, than I ever would someone from NJ or CONN.
Not predjudiced against them either- just how I feel.

[Billiam]

Originally Posted by blueva

LOL. Actually - culturally Richmond and Savannah are quite the same! Not saying Richmond is quite as Southron as Savannah - but... the older folks in Richmond- the women walk around hats in white gloves and pearls and go into the super market that way. Lots of talk about their "daddies" and Going to the Rivah". etc

Anyways, I think we will just have to agree that we can't agree on anything, lol.

That being said- I love Washington DC- whether its considered North, South, or Below the Equator- its a great city!

Ill agree on that!

but i found Richmond and Savannah very, i mean VERY different. Oh well. It doesn't even matter

DC is a beautiful mid atlantic City that is a world class city

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by ainulinale

Miami has the most reported road rage of any city in the U.S...the impatience you're talking about?
I suppose I simply don't define the Northeast in terms of it's pace of living.

Road rage hardly has anything to do with it. Honestly, NYC's rate of road rage is probably low, simply because people are used to the rat race. That's just a guess though - I don't know for sure. But I do drive in NYC often and if people cut you off or ride your tail, you really don't see much of the finger or screaming the way you do in other cities. You just keep driving, and look straight ahead.

[blueva]

Originally Posted by Billiam

Ill agree on that!

but i found Richmond and Savannah very, i mean VERY different. Oh well. It doesn't even matter

DC is a beautiful mid atlantic City that is a world class city

Put Palm trees in Richmond , and you have Savannah.

In all honesty though-I would say Richmond is more like Chawwlston. The people, the accents, the vibe. In fact, Savannah is a poor man's Charleston, so Richmond would fit more with Charleston.