Are Maryland and Delaware part of the South or North? (areas, cities)

[flyguy23]

i dont care it is southern border state

[Unstable]

Mid-Atlantic States are NY PA NJ. MD and DE are sometimes included, but not by the US Census.

The Mid-Atlantic and New England together make the Northeast.

[Spade]

Originally Posted by Unstable

Mid-Atlantic States are NY PA NJ. MD and DE are sometimes included, but not by the US Census.

The Mid-Atlantic and New England together make the Northeast.

Well by not going with the US Census, Maryland, DC, and VA are Mid-Atlantic states.

[Spade]

Originally Posted by hitek

maybe a hillbillie from alabama or texas

what? and really? I hope you're not from Maryland calling other people hillbillies. Been to Western Maryland in a while?

[Unstable]

Originally Posted by Spade

Well by not going with the US Census, Maryland, DC, and VA are Mid-Atlantic states.

Well, you need some sort of standard. The Census is one, but "not the Census" really isn't. It's a matter of opinion to defend.

I made my comment because someone claimed that these states were in the Mid-Atlantic NOT the Northeast, and the Mid-Atlantic is strictly a subset of the Northeast.

[TomDot]

Originally Posted by Unstable

Mid-Atlantic States are NY PA NJ. MD and DE are sometimes included, but not by the US Census.

The Mid-Atlantic and New England together make the Northeast.

The U.S. Census draws their lines based on their own preconceptions. Do you think that there is a machine that picks what states are in what region? No, these are people in the census bureau drawing these lines.

If you were to divide the east into the 2 categories of north/south, I would put Maryland and Delaware in the north.
This past June I lived for a month in NoVA. One of the girls who I worked with was from Maryland. I asked her whether she considered herself a southerner and she said no.

[bobsmith]

Just food for thought:

I'm a Pennsylvanian, and a number of years back I was visiting Williamsburg, Virginia. I enjoyed my visit immensely, and I felt that Williamsburg was very southern to me. Then on my third day, I ran into a bus load of students taking a class trip from southern Alabama. Their language and mannerisms were filled with so much southern-ness that my Virginia surroundings seemed Northern in comparison. The Albama students even said Williamsburg felt northern to them.

On the other hand, my sister goes to a college in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. There was a student from a New England state, I forget which one, but she really felt that Pennsylvania was southern. That was baffelling to me because to my perspective Pennsylvania is a thoroughly northern state.

I guess the point is that northern and southern are not black and white; it is a sliding scale. There is not a rigid line that passes through the Mason Dixon line, the Potomac, the bottom of the D.C. Metro area, or any other place that seperates North and South; rather, there is a wide shaded area that shares attributes of both northern and southern culture.

[dcsfanatic]

Originally Posted by bobsmith

Just food for thought:

I'm a Pennsylvanian, and a number of years back I was visiting Williamsburg, Virginia. I enjoyed my visit immensely, and I felt that Williamsburg was very southern to me. Then on my third day, I ran into a bus load of students taking a class trip from southern Alabama. Their language and mannerisms were filled with so much southern-ness that my Virginia surroundings seemed Northern in comparison. The Albama students even said Williamsburg felt northern to them.

On the other hand, my sister goes to a college in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. There was a student from a New England state, I forget which one, but she really felt that Pennsylvania was southern. That was baffelling to me because to my perspective Pennsylvania is a thoroughly northern state.

I guess the point is that northern and southern are not black and white; it is a sliding scale. There is not a rigid line that passes through the Mason Dixon line, the Potomac, the bottom of the D.C. Metro area, or any other place that seperates North and South; rather, there is a wide shaded area that shares attributes of both northern and southern culture.

Most sensible post of them all.

[Unstable]

Sure, the Census is making judgment calls, but the Census Bureau exists TO BE an authority - their opinion matters more than yours or mine.

[miamiman]

Mid-Atlantic is NOT a subset of the Northeast. There are many times Virginia and North Carolina are considered Mid-Atlantic states. They are not in the Northeast. History should tell you that.

Maryland and Delaware are states in the transition zone. There are areas of both states that have more northern traits than southern. For Maryland that would include western Maryland and the Baltimore area. For Delaware that would include most places north of Dover. These states are odd in that you can go for one city to another and feel like you're in a completely different region. Traveling from Montgomery County into Prince George's County feels like going from the north to the south, traveling from Annapolis to the Eastern Shore feels like going from the north to the south, and traveling from Wilmington to Georgetown feels like going from the north into the south.

I don't see why so many people from the region vehemently deny their history as being part of the South. I see many posts where people try to put DC in the same category as Philadelphia, NY, and Boston. DC is nothing like those three cities. As few as 20 or 30 years ago there would be no question about DC, Maryland and Delaware being southern.