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Old 11-05-2008, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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Last I checked a gay person can be fired for simply being gay, they can be refused medical treatment for simply being gay, some states ban adoption by gays, other sates allow discrimination in housing against gays, and in many states, gays aren't allowed hospital visits to their partners.

Firing someone simply for being gay is against the law, so you need to check again. Likewise, refusing medical treatment to someone simply because they are gay is also against the law.

Gay adoption is a priviledge, just like heterosexual adoption. Adoption is NOT a right. Likewise, hospital visitation is a PRIVILEDGE, NOT a right. My wife is an RN and she can tell you that visitation is entirely at the discretion of the doctor, the hospital policies and state law, not the US Constitution.
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:23 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Firing someone simply for being gay is against the law, so you need to check again. Likewise, refusing medical treatment to someone simply because they are gay is also against the law.

Gay adoption is a priviledge, just like heterosexual adoption. Adoption is NOT a right. Likewise, hospital visitation is a PRIVILEDGE, NOT a right. My wife is an RN and she can tell you that visitation is entirely at the discretion of the doctor, the hospital policies and state law, not the US Constitution.
No it's not, it's perfectly legal in many states. It's legal right here in Texas.
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:58 PM
 
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No it's not, it's perfectly legal in many states. It's legal right here in Texas.
I find it ironic that a bill passed protecting pets rights, while an amendment limiting the rights for gay/lesbian Americans passed.

Womens rights...to racial equality...and now its rights for the gay/lesbian community...

will people ever learn?
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:02 PM
 
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No it's not, it's perfectly legal in many states. It's legal right here in Texas.
Then either work to change the law or move out of Texas. BTW... you don't have a right to work.
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:24 PM
 
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I've never understood this argument. Most (not all) African Americans have historically been voting for white Democrats for years over and nothing racial has been made of that, yet when an African American runs as a Democrat, and African Americans vote in a similar fashion as they have been voting for years, it is suddenly racial? That is hogwash.
Finally, something that makes sense. Most African-Americans didn't vote for McCain because most African-Americans don't vote Republican. I am sure there are African-Americans out there who did vote for Obama simply because he was black, but that is not all of the African-American population. I look at it this way, if you don't agree with Obama or his policies and stances, well, that's your stance. Race shouldn't be made the issue.

I think part of it has to do with the fact that there are many people out there who are very uncomfortable with a black man running the USA. This isn't surprising because throughout this nation's history, the status quo has always been that only whites could run the government and blacks were not encouraged to participate, to say the least. A black man in the White House running this nation is considered out of place by some people out there who are very close-minded and bigoted. Now the USA has a black president. To many people, this is what is means to many people: To many, it means that the USA is living up to its creed as being the land of opportunity and equality.
Now Obama has alot of work to do.
Race shouldn't matter. We have bigger things to think about.
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