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Old 09-17-2008, 07:23 PM
 
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Just in terms of climate and weather patterns, I find it funny that everyone tends to gang up on the Sunbelt & the South, yet the western edge of the Rustbelt sits on the New Madrid fault line, the Midwest has larger swings in temperature, not to mention has more events and different types of severe weather than any other region. Same can be said for the Northeast, but nobody cares about the Northeast anymore, and it's the Midwest who largely seems to have a problem with the South.

Just in terms of social patterns, I find it funny how everyone gangs up on the South, yet tends to look at their own non-Southern linguistic patterns and social norms as vastly superior -- as if it's a proven fact. I like how people move to the South and expect things to be from wherever non-South they come from, and are surprised and become bitter when things aren't exactly what they picture it to be in their self-important minds.

Just in general, I find it funny how those from the Midwest/Rust Belt are incredibly jealous of the fact that most of the population and the prosperity has moved South, and how they have to find any semblance of credibility(having the Great Lakes in the case of "global warming", having "real" cites, not being the "Bible Belt", not being pretentiously "cosmopoiltan, or "cultured" enough, whatever all that is supposed to mean...) to justify their bitter beliefs. I find it funny how people call the South "backwards", when they resort to childish name-calling, segregating, stereotyping, still living in a mindset when the Midwest/Rust Belt was prominent(which was over 30 years ago),and bringing up a conflict that happened over 130 years ago to justify their bitter beliefs. I find it funny how the Midwest hates the region that is most similar to them.
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Old 09-17-2008, 07:36 PM
 
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I predict this thread will bring nothing but trouble.
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Old 09-17-2008, 07:40 PM
 
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Umm,

The "Rust Belt" currently runs from Maine to Washingon State, and Lake of the Woods, Mn. to Cayo Hueso, Fl.
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Cortland, Ohio
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Umm,

The "Rust Belt" currently runs from Maine to Washingon State, and Lake of the Woods, Mn. to Cayo Hueso, Fl.
Since when????? do you have facts to back this up???? I thought the rust belt was made up of mostly cities w/in several miles of the Great Lakes, such as Detroit, Gary, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Youngstown, Buffalo, and some in the upper midwest.
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:25 PM
 
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Since when????? do you have facts to back this up???? I thought the rust belt was made up of mostly cities w/in several miles of the Great Lakes, such as Detroit, Gary, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Youngstown, Buffalo, and some in the upper midwest.
Um, I think he is being facetious. He's basically described the entire country...
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:29 PM
 
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Wow! Are you just begging me to wipe the floor with you?
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Cortland, Ohio
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Ok, guess i didn't get it.......i tend to have "blonde moments".
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:44 PM
 
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Since when????? do you have facts to back this up???? I thought the rust belt was made up of mostly cities w/in several miles of the Great Lakes, such as Detroit, Gary, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Youngstown, Buffalo, and some in the upper midwest.
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If you check "Real wages", an econ term that means wages ,excluding income from investments, bonuses, and the salaries of top execs and professionals, such as attorneys, doctors, etc, a figure which is the primary-if not sole-source of $ for 80% of Americans, you'll see they have declined by 30% since 1973. Conversely, the Middle Class has shrunk (to almost nothing) while the working poor numbers have exploded and the rich have become super rich.
In California, they call it the "Hourglass economy", implying 50% are making it, and 50% aren't, but even there it's still the same 80-20 split- 80% going down the tubes, and 20% living like monarchs of old.

That's the USA today (not the corporate rag, but the stark reality), and therefore the real "Rust Belt".

Numbers were first pointed out Economist Dr. Ravi Batra (SMU) in the early 90's; they have not changed since then, and are extrapolated from the report of the economic advisors to the president.
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Cortland, Ohio
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If you check "Real wages", an econ term that means wages ,excluding income from investments, bonuses, and the salaries of top execs and professionals, such as attorneys, doctors, etc, a figure which is the primary-if not sole-source of $ for 80% of Americans, you'll see they have declined by 30% since 1973. Conversely, the Middle Class has shrunk (to almost nothing) while the working poor numbers have exploded and the rich have become super rich.
In California, they call it the "Hourglass economy", implying 50% are making it, and 50% aren't, but even there it's still the same 80-20 split- 80% going down the tubes, and 20% living like monarchs of old.

That's the USA today (not the corporate rag, but the stark reality), and therefore the real "Rust Belt".

Numbers were first pointed out Economist Dr. Ravi Batra (SMU) in the early 90's; they have not changed since then, and are extrapolated from the report of the economic advisors to the president.
I understand what you are saying, and i too believe real wages are declining. I guess i just find it hard to believe that the rest of the country is hurting like Detroit, Cleveland, and Youngstown..........we don't even have jobs here for the most part.
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:52 PM
 
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Let me ask you this:

In the old USSR, the unemployment rate was 0%- everybody had a "job".

Were the Russian people 'hurting" under communism, in an economic sense, I mean?
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