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Old 11-30-2008, 04:57 PM
 
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I'm glad Miami isn't on the list anymore, but we are the 7th most dangerous metro in the US.
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Old 11-30-2008, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Cortland, Ohio
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I would rather live in a metro that had a dangerous city that live in a dangerous metro. If you think about it, there is a really big difference. I think the metros surrounding all of Ohio's dangerous cities are really quite safe.
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Old 11-30-2008, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Back home in Kaguawagpjpa.
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I bet you wouldn't be saying the same thing if he was a Democrat. The fact is that ever since Rudy Giuliani was mayor, the Big Apple has never again been ranked among the list of America's murder capitals. I remember the crime/murder rate being pretty damn high when it was runned by the Black DEMOCRAT David Dinkins. And Rudy cleaned up the mess that he left behind.
Not to beat a dead horse, but crime actually went DOWN in Dinkins last year and a half in office. The big reason why Dinkins lost is because of the economic situation that plagued New York in the early 1990s. Rudy did crack down on quality of life issues, but by no means was he the savior that he is made out to be.
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Old 11-30-2008, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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Although St. Louis City has a crime problem, St. Louis Metro is 127th most dangerous. And St. Louis city is very small and fairly dense, very urban. Generally very urban areas have higher crime. When you have a big spread out city like Kansas City with a density of like 1,500 (St. Louis City density is about 5,700 people per sq. mi.), then "city" crime will be lower. From my understanding, most of St. Louis City is fine. Though St. Louis does need to address its crime issues, it's not like the city is unlivable.
The fact that the 'burbs of St. Louis are safe does not change the fact that the city is dangerous. The list in question was about CITIES; not metros.
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Old 11-30-2008, 08:04 PM
 
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Not to beat a dead horse, but crime actually went DOWN in Dinkins last year and a half in office. The big reason why Dinkins lost is because of the economic situation that plagued New York in the early 1990s. Rudy did crack down on quality of life issues, but by no means was he the savior that he is made out to be.
I lived in the city during the Dinkins years. Remember the riots and his inadequate response? I do. There was also rampant crime. When Rudy became Mayor he concentrated on quality of life issues, which drastically improved the lives of people living in the city. Some people can claim it was the police chief who initiated the crack down on petty crimes (often committed by people involved in more serious crimes), but it was still on Rudy's watch.
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Old 11-30-2008, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Back home in Kaguawagpjpa.
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^^^ I think you're confusing cracking down crime with being a good mayor. NYC was a racially polorizing place during the 80's and early 90's, responding the the Crown Heights riots or the Korean boycott was going to be difficult at best. Dinkins is also responsible for increasing the size of the NYPD, something that Rudy gets a lot of credit for. Also, lets not forget the police brutality incidents that were sadly common under Rudy's watch. Biaz, Louima, Diallo, Dorismond. What was his response? Or what about his treatment of the lower class and the homeless? What would most people think of that?
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Old 11-30-2008, 09:19 PM
 
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I would rather live in a metro that had a dangerous city that live in a dangerous metro. If you think about it, there is a really big difference. I think the metros surrounding all of Ohio's dangerous cities are really quite safe.
I agree. A pattern I have noticed is that in Sunbelt metros, crime is dispersed all over the metro, while in Northern and Midwestern metros, crime is pretty well confined to central city neighborhoods.
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Old 11-30-2008, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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I'm glad Miami isn't on the list anymore, but we are the 7th most dangerous metro in the US.
don'[t worry miami will always be on my list

i know, i know... i shouldn't talk
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Old 11-30-2008, 09:30 PM
 
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I agree. A pattern I have noticed is that in Sunbelt metros, crime is dispersed all over the metro, while in Northern and Midwestern metros, crime is pretty well confined to central city neighborhoods.
It's so funny when people characterize all the cities in a particular region as being the same. They aren't the same - in any region.
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Old 11-30-2008, 09:32 PM
 
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The complete rankings for all cities can be found here:

CQ Press: City Crime Rankings 2008

You can also find rankings for metros. What really surprised me is that Minneapolis is ranked the #20 most dangerous city, above Washington D.C. and Philadelphia, respectively. Also rounding the top 20 are Atlanta at #16, Compton at #17, Orlando at #18, and Little Rock at #19.
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