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Of course, why wouldn't you say that? You've made no secret of your dislike for the Sunbelt.
Yes I dislike the sunbelt, but the sunbelt has NOTHING to do with a nice downtown skyline. While Houston's skyline is indeed nice, I just think Philly's is better, thats all I said. I cant help the fact that the sunbelt cities have uninspiring skylines, can I?
In YOUR opinion. Travel to, say, Italy and pop out some pictures of Houston, El Paso, Albuquerque, Phoenix, etc and see if they can identify the city. Most will scratch their heads while they guess. Now show em a pic of Chicago or NYC and they can ID them because they stand out and have magnificent skylines. In fact, alot of Americans probably would have a hard time telling Houston from LA from Atlanta from Charlotte (based on a architectural standpoint, not surroundings).
Scattered casinos dont really make for a skyline, although others would disagree. IMO, Vegas' "skyline" is probably the worst in the USA, its a hodgepodge mess of lights and rip-off architecture from REAL wonders of the world.
The fact that Atlanta is in the #2 spot is kinda shocking to me. ATL has a nice skyline for a city its size, but I don't think it's the second best in the nation. It might sneak into the top ten. It makes me wonder if the people who voted for it have been to many other big cities. I grew up in SC, and until I was 15 and went to LA, San Diego, and NYC, I thought Atlanta was it. After visiting some other cities in the US and the World, though... ATL still holds up, but not in the top spot.
Its not quite that simple slugger. Read a couple books about the rise and fall of the big cities east of the Mississippi. "Being old" doesn't turn cities into slums,failed and ill-advised government turns cities into slums.
rainrock, I see you are two bananas shy of a fruit salad, so I'll just excuse your overly bias, territorial and far-fetched views on cities, skylines, and everything ells you have mentioned on this forum.
rise and falls of cities, way on economical, and social opportunity....spanned through eras coupled with corrupt law enforcement, and city officials........
crime, white flight, thus building up suburbs, reducing the population of the inner city, pushing dollars away from the core city, neglect of the inner city, by way of social, economical, and racial bigotry, results in slums.
Philly was once the most populous city in the US, and former US capital before D.C............eras- great depression, hurt the city, WWII brought it back, as jobs were established, (Cleveland, Cinci, Detroit, etc, relied heavily on industry).........era---Homes outdated built in the nineteenth century, that were inaficiant to (whites), and the fact minorities relocated up north from the south causing white flight, thus the creatation, of what we now know as suburbs, greatly causing the population to increase out of the city limits, and decline within.
era- US shifts away from industry, (outsourcing in now common place) jobs are lost, even more people leave these cities, as they are now considered unappealing. US shifts to (Tourism, Entertainment, Financial, and Technology,). Cities Leading in these catigories gain appeal, and massive population.
Gentrification – (Cabrini Green demolished – Chicago) / (Baldwin Village AKA the Jungle some Condo’s – Los Angeles)
Detroit, Cleveland, Cinci, Philly etc, still have slums because the, appeal, demand, and economy / jobs, aren’t there to meet the criteria, of what now looks to fill the inner city (Young Urban Professionals), and as long as that is the case, and minorities still occupy these area's it will remain this way untill, bigotry is demolished, along with the aging slums. Philly has the best chance right now.
Because of better weather, newer cities, more jobs, better schools, and less of a serious racial divide as back east, or even in the south (just to a much lesser degree), many Americans continue to move west, and also south to a degree (Atlanta, Austin, San Antonio, Houston etc.)
Then there is those who move just to get away from area's heavily populated by minorities, to those that are not, ie the Pacific Northwest.
Cities on the west that didn’t even register 30 or 40 years ago, now have populations bigger than cities that once were the most populous in the U.S. like (Philly, Detroit, Cleveland)
Simple minds might view this and find racial undertones, but what I'm saying is just pure facts. It happened and will continue to happen, it is weaved in americas fabric, and historical makeup simple as that.
Of course you wouldn't know anything about that,tucked far far
away in your north pacific cubby hole.
Born in the hood, in the Rainier Valley / Skyway section of Seattle, moved to Inglewood, CA (off Century and Crenshaw) as a child.....grew up in Compton, CA, (off Central and Alondra) I went from very tuff circomstances that you wouldn't last five minutes in, even to this day, and it's way tamer than when I was growing up. So don't tell me I don't know anything about impoverished neighborhoods, I grew up in them. Now I stay in Long Beach, CA part of the year- and most of the year on Mercer Island in Seattle.
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Most will scratch their heads while they guess. Now show em a pic of Chicago or NYC and they can ID them because they stand out and have magnificent skylines. In fact, alot of Americans probably would have a hard time telling Houston from LA from Atlanta from Charlotte (based on a architectural standpoint, not surroundings).
