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I don't see too many Pac NW picks. Seattle, for example, is kind of cold to new people or maybe it is that they just have their own thing going on & are very disinterested in anything else.
New York City (depressing surroundings in New Jersey, cold buildings in all of NYC except for Midtown and downtown Manhattan....and of course the coldest, least friendly people in the entire world)
Newark, New Jersey (self-explanatory)
Jersey City, New Jersey (self-explanatory)
Cleveland, Ohio (it was a plane stop in the middle of winter....but everything was cold and gray and our flight was de-iced twice. The view was soooo depressing with ice everywhere and the city under a pall of gray, with gray buildings everywhere.)
Cosmic, Boise, Idaho was one of the friendliest places I've ever been. People were wonderful and helpful and were genuinely kind of visitors unlike New Yorkers or Californians.
Kathleen, its not actually people from New YOrk City's 5 actual boroughs that are the worst, its people from Lwong Island (esp. Nassau County...Suffolk is slightly better, and I stress slightly) and Westchester.
I've found people from Westchester, NY and the state of Connecticut and New York area transplants in Maryland to be the most unpleasant people anywhere on Earth. Yes, Lwong Islanders are more unlikable than even Parisians and Londoners.
I've surprised at how many people mentioend Midwestern cities like Fargo and Sioux Falls. These are the places I expect to be most friendly and hospitable, where people are religious and have good values.
From personal experience, I also have to add Oakland, California as a very cold city. San Francisco was actually really great, as was Berkeley, but Oakland was just very ghetto and unpleasant and depressing. My tour guide in San Francisco said Oakland was a part of New Jersey in California and it wasn't that far from the truth.
Terrapin2212 - cities that are suspicious of outsiders and cannot accept eccentricity or people who do not share their values or ways of living the way that some of those small midwestern towns are would, to me, be much colder and harsher to live in than a place whose residents have a reputation for briskness and the occasional public outburst of anger but are ultimately fun to be around and friendly (e.g. nyc) (some of it is just being in a city, hey, I think I stole a cab last week from someone else myself but didn't really realize it until I had an angry person glaring at me from the curb as I sat down, but I kept the taxi, if that person had been a tourist, they probably went home shaking their head at how 'rude' people were too, and I don't think I'm a rude person at all). I've been in the northern midwest and good luck getting people to chat with you anywhere and I've been to corner pubs in Brooklyn found the locals chatty and gregarious.
Ultimately I think it is different strokes for different folks, but I know that I could NEVER live in one of those small midwestern towns as I found them much colder than anything I've encountered in the cities typically dismissed as 'rude'.
I'll vouch for Long Island and Westchester County too: far worse than the rest of its NY neighbors.... Portland, Maine is a city with alot of femi-nazis and just plain unfriendly people. I'll add most of southern New England including southern NH, Central Florida, DC, Maryland, Philly, Detroit, and some of the burbs south of Chicago into Indiana just seems full of miserable human beings.
--Louisville, KY...a city that goes on and on and ON and ON about its Southern hospitality (that, once you get there, you find out it doesn't remotely exist.)
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For somewhere that has no Southern hospitality, my sunday school teachers who were transferred to Indianapolis sure miss it. Maybe you just weren't in the right part?
and some of the burbs south of Chicago into Indiana just seems full of miserable human beings.
Hey ... we aren't all bad (I'm from the burbs just south of Chicago).
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(I'm from the burbs just south of Chicago).
