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Old 01-30-2010, 12:06 AM
 
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the south is south of the missouri compromise line east of the eastern boarder of texas and not including oklahoma
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Old 01-30-2010, 12:45 AM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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the south is south of the missouri compromise line east of the eastern boarder of texas and not including oklahoma
So most of Texas and Oklahoma are not part of the South at large? Very interesting perspective.

Read back through the last couple pages of this thread and you'll see that your position is at odds with most of the other posters as well as the maps that are listed.

Looks like much of Oklahoma was simply western Arkansaw Territory during the Missouri Compromise. I'm glad that Oklahoma is its own territory/state now, however.

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Old 01-31-2010, 09:11 AM
 
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So most of Texas and Oklahoma are not part of the South at large? Very interesting perspective.

Read back through the last couple pages of this thread and you'll see that your position is at odds with most of the other posters as well as the maps that are listed.

Looks like much of Oklahoma was simply western Arkansaw Territory during the Missouri Compromise. I'm glad that Oklahoma is its own territory/state now, however.

Cheers.
LOL You go, buddy!
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Old 01-31-2010, 09:52 AM
 
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the south is south of the missouri compromise line east of the eastern boarder of texas and not including oklahoma
Why do you say this? By what criteria are your boundary lines drawn? Just asking...
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Old 01-31-2010, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Seeing is believing,but remember that the South's bounderies changed dramatically when the War Between The States came about.
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Old 01-31-2010, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Personally, I think the map I made by putting together the 2000 US Census Ancestry map with the Telsur Project map of southern speech (red line) shows pretty much where the south begins.
South Regional Map


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Old 01-31-2010, 04:38 PM
 
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IMO, the south begins once you hit North Carolina.
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Old 01-31-2010, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The Mason / Dixon line is where the South begins.
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Old 01-31-2010, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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Personally, I think the map I made by putting together the 2000 US Census Ancestry map with the Telsur Project map of southern speech (red line) shows pretty much where the south begins.
South Regional Map

I'd agree with this, except I'd include all of Kentucky, and a little more of Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois. Overall, very accurate description.
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Old 02-01-2010, 12:50 AM
 
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So most of Texas and Oklahoma are not part of the South at large? Very interesting perspective.

Read back through the last couple pages of this thread and you'll see that your position is at odds with most of the other posters as well as the maps that are listed.

Looks like much of Oklahoma was simply western Arkansaw Territory during the Missouri Compromise. I'm glad that Oklahoma is its own territory/state now, however.

Cheers.

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excuse me i meant the western side of texas but no i dont include oklahoma
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