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Then that hits the nail right on the head. That totally means Philadelphia is like Baltimore, Hartford or Providence instead of DC, New York, Boston or Atlanta. Philadelphia went from a major city to a big town.
It means that everything is relative, especially if you're talking about the cities that are mentioned frequently on The Weather Channel. Philadelphia is a major city, not a large town, but it does not happen to be the largest city in the middle section of the Northeast Corridor. They could give an accurate picture of the weather in the northern, central, and southern sections of the Northeast Corridor if they used Hartford or Providence as examples for southern New England, Baltimore as the example for the southern end of the Corridor, and Philly as representative of the Corridor's midsection. For that matter, they could use Glassboro, NJ, as the example for the middle of the Corridor. There just seems to be a natural tendency to use the biggest city to represent a region, which is why Boston, NYC, and Washington are used often as examples of the weather in various sections of the Northeast. Philadelphia just does not happen to be the largest city in the middle section of BosWash. NYC is, so that's the city they naturally tend to use as the example for that section of the Northeast. If Philly were bigger than NYC, it would be the city they would use as the example.
Let's not forget that Chicago hasn't always had the reputation it has now and it certainly doesnt have the reputation for being pristine even today.
It certainly has that reputation among those who actually come visit the place. Ask any tourist who comes to Chicago what their impressions are, and almost to a man, the first thing nearly of them will tell you is they're surprised at how clean it is. No major city is going to be completely free of grime and litter and all that. But compared to Philadelphia, you could practically eat off the sidewalks around here.
But let's suppose I'm wrong. Let's assume that Chicago is a festering pit. What does that have to do with my observation that Philadelphia appears to have practically given up on itself? Philadelphia's aesthetic state is completely independent of Chicago's.
No major city is going to be completely free of grime and litter and all that. But compared to Philadelphia, you could practically eat off the sidewalks around here.
I have been to Chicago and you are exagerating greatly.
I have been to Chicago and you are exagerating greatly.
Gee So-crates, there's no putting anything past you, is there? It was obviously an exaggeration for comparative purposes. I didn't expect anyone to take what I said literally.
It certainly has that reputation among those who actually come visit the place. Ask any tourist who comes to Chicago what their impressions are, and almost to a man, the first thing nearly of them will tell you is they're surprised at how clean it is. No major city is going to be completely free of grime and litter and all that. But compared to Philadelphia, you could practically eat off the sidewalks around here.
But let's suppose I'm wrong. Let's assume that Chicago is a festering pit. What does that have to do with my observation that Philadelphia appears to have practically given up on itself? Philadelphia's aesthetic state is completely independent of Chicago's.
Exactly. They're surprised at how clean it is. Which means what? They were expecting a grimy city. Chicago (although more influential and much more powerful economically) is more similar to Philadelphia than you give it credit for. Both have great downtowns surrounded by a ring of decay. I haven't been to Chicago since I was 18 and that was 4 years ago, but when I was there, there were still quite a few neighborhoods that were in a similar condition to those around Philadelphias Center city.
Exactly. They're surprised at how clean it is. Which means what? They were expecting a grimy city. Chicago (although more influential and much more powerful economically) is more similar to Philadelphia than you give it credit for. Both have great downtowns surrounded by a ring of decay. I haven't been to Chicago since I was 18 and that was 4 years ago, but when I was there, there were still quite a few neighborhoods that were in a similar condition to those around Philadelphias Center city.
I ask again -- what does Chicago's condition have to do with Philadelphia's condition?
And downtown Chicago surrounded by a ring of decay? South Loop decayed? West Loop decayed? River North decayed? These are some of the most vital and expensive neighborhoods in the city.
It certainly has that reputation among those who actually come visit the place. Ask any tourist who comes to Chicago what their impressions are, and almost to a man, the first thing nearly of them will tell you is they're surprised at how clean it is.No major city is going to be completely free of grime and litter and all that. But compared to Philadelphia, you could practically eat off the sidewalks around here.
So every tourist(according to you) that comes to Chicago raves about its cleanliness but you come to Philadlephia and disparagingly speak for every Philadlephia tourist. Is that how it works?
I ask again -- what does Chicago's condition have to do with Philadelphia's condition?
To answer your question, all inner cities have faced the same challenges. That is loss of business, large masses moving to suburbs, etc. I just thought that someone from Chicago would understand that being as though it, along with Philly, Detroit, bmore,etc all were in the same situation. You were speaking about Philadelphia as though it being grimy,dirty is unique. It isn't.
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