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Old 06-02-2009, 10:51 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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I would say Kaka and Ronaldoare famous players in the world but saying James or Kobe is laughable.
Who? Not kidding, haven't got a clue who Kaka & Ronaldoare are. I have heard of James and Kobe even though I detest Basketball.
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Old 06-02-2009, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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^^^ brazilian soccer players
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Old 06-02-2009, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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I was reading NYtimes the other day about Lebron James possibly leaving Cleveland. The author noted how he and the cavs were an economic boon to such a "small city market". This puzzled me as with a population over 400,000 Cleveland doesn't seem small, though it's no Chicago.

Likewise, the District of Columbia is only about half a million peeps but many call it a "big city".

Over looking the big 3, what population number do you think consitutes a "big city" in the U.S.

I consider anything above say 700K at the VERY least.

Let's not forget that counting the suburbs, and Lebron's hometown of Akron, Cleveland's metro in the area of around 2.9 million.

Northeast Ohio has 4.5 million.

Not to mention, due to the lack of surrounding NBA teams in the area, there are decent amounts of fans from the rest of the state...Columbus, Cincinnati...and as well as some surrounding cities...Buffalo, dare I say Pittsburgh...supporting the CAVS.

Lastly, the Cavs were in the top five in the country for TV ratings, merchendise, attendence...etc

The market isn't as small as the city population may indicate.

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Old 06-02-2009, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Area, Michigan
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Who? Not kidding, haven't got a clue who Kaka & Ronaldo are are. I have heard of James and Kobe even though I detest Basketball.
Football (Soccer) the worlds biggest and most watched sport.
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Old 06-02-2009, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
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Who? Not kidding, haven't got a clue who Kaka & Ronaldoare are. I have heard of James and Kobe even though I detest Basketball.
Yeah, they might be the most famous in the USA, but in the entire world, they are not even on the radar. Most of the world doesn't watch or play basketball. Soccer on the other hand is the most watched sport in the entire world and hence soccer players are the most known worldwide (even though not here in the USA, a small percentage of global population). Try not to have such an American view that what is big here is big in the whole world.
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Old 06-02-2009, 11:10 AM
 
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There are thousand of cities in this country ranging from a few thousand to a few million. No way a city of 400k is "small". 400k is on the larger end of things when looking at all the cities in the country.
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Old 06-02-2009, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Back home in Kaguawagpjpa.
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Yeah, they might be the most famous in the USA, but in the entire world, they are not even on the radar. Most of the world doesn't watch or play basketball. Soccer on the other hand is the most watched sport in the entire world and hence soccer players are the most known worldwide (even though not here in the USA, a small percentage of global population). Try not to have such an American view that what is big here is big in the whole world.


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You're right: The world has never heard of these two guys.
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Old 06-02-2009, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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yeah, i heard that kobe and lebron were so big in beijing, they were swarmed everywhere they went. they needed private lodging separate from the other olympic athletes. and i think kobe was bigger than lebron.
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Old 06-02-2009, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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People around here consider Little Rock "the big city" but then again, many of them have never been outside of Arkansas. Having been around, Little Rock is a very small town to me. I consider a "big city" to have at least 1 million URBANIZED metro populations. A lot of metro sizes are misleading because they include all the rural towns surrounding the city as well. For instance Little Rock's metro population is nearly 700,000 but only just above 300,000 actually live in the urbanized portion (both city proper and suburbs) and the rest live in rural areas. If Little Rock actually had 700,000 in the urbanized area it wouldn't feel like such a podunk hick town.
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Old 06-02-2009, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Mequon, WI
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I think you cannot go by city proper ie SF, Miami, atlanta you have to consider the whole area.

I would put anything a 1,000,000+ metro is a big city

Yeah I can tell people Milwaukee is bigger than Miami, SF, Boston, Atlanta but when you put in metro we fall way behind only having 2.1million
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