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Old 11-06-2009, 01:26 AM
 
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Well, one thing I've noticed from living in the Northeast, especially as an African-American, is that to a certain extent, people in this region talk about race and race-class interaction and people in the South live it
I couldn't have put it better myself. Living in the DMV we always discussed racial issues in school, whether it be history class or English class after reading books like Huckleberry Finn, To Kill a Mockingbird, and Langston Hughes. But nobody in any of my classes had actually experienced anything like that in those books.

Fast foward to me moving to the South and I am actually meeting people who have the same ideologies as people in those books.


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If we're talking about the small towns/rural areas then yes, the South is a lot less progressive racially.

However, if we're talking about the major cities, and since Atlanta is the city mentioned, then it's definitely not fair to make blanket statements about the north being more racially progressive than the south. For all the people I've heard talk Boston up as some type of progressive utopia, my parents (black and latino) experienced decidedly more race-based nastiness up there than any of the other places they've lived, and a friend of ours who went to Harvard Law immediately left for DC, because he saw barely any black people of status up there. I'd say Boston has at least as many, if not more, racial issues than places like Atlanta, Charlotte or Louisville. And let's not forget Howard Beach and Bensonhurst in NYC.
I don't know too much about Boston but I'd guess it would be the exception. Didn't Boston have school integration issues worse than Little Rock? And also, remember the guy who killed his wife and said a black guy did it? Followed by malicious police harassment in the city's black neighborhoods for the next few days/weeks. Thats what comes to mind when I think about Boston.


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Old 11-06-2009, 09:53 AM
 
Location: metro ATL
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If we're talking about the small towns/rural areas then yes, the South is a lot less progressive racially.
Well I'm not sure if that's a fair comparison since Blacks in rural areas of the South (outside of the foothills/mountains) are a common occurrence whereas they're not in other areas of the country.
 
Old 11-06-2009, 12:21 PM
 
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"Insulting and unjust"? I guess that depends on whether you are a conservative in denial. Unfortunately for this country, "conservative" is synonymous with "racist", and the conservative agenda has more in common with the klan ideology than it does not. Conservatives have more than an "unfortunate history", they have a SHAMEFUL history of supreme ignorance in this regard.

I don't trust a region of the country that is always painted red even when the conservative party has shown itself to be an utter failure and a detriment to this county over the previous 8 years. Painted red even when their candidate is vastly inferior to opposition candidate. Painted red because an educated black man is running and I've heard some say that they "can't never vote for no black man." Shameful.
Alexus, you're a one-trick pony.
 
Old 11-06-2009, 10:04 PM
 
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They want to be around a lot of blacks, and the South has tons of blacks.

Perfectly understandable, as it is for whites to want to be around other whites, but some people get all up in arms about whites wanting to look out for their group interests, or wanting to be around their own. Talk about insane thinking.
 
Old 11-06-2009, 10:06 PM
 
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Interesting comment. Why is the Northeast the best place for black people?

I guess I don't view the South as progressive...at least not politically. We can always count on that region of the country to vote the way the klan does, for the Conservative agenda. This despite so much black presence.
Please expound, providing evidence that prove what you say is the truth.
 
Old 11-06-2009, 10:10 PM
 
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This is a broad and rather unfair maligning of a large swath of America.

I really doubt the Klan wants people like Joseph Cao and Bobby Jindahl in office, but conservatives did. Even Sarah Palin I doubt fit the Klan ideal of women, which traditionally tends to be domestic and submissive. It was also a conservative woman, Elizabeth Rickey, who maybe did the most to expose and derail David Duke.

There is an unfortunate history of racism and segregationism in the conservative movement, but to say it "votes the way the Klan does" is insulting and unjust.
What's to "expose" about Dr. Duke? He was in the klan over thirty years ago, and it wasn't a violent chapter of the klan. If you've ever listened to the man, he makes it apparent that all peoples should have the right to look after their own collective interests, a far cry from some politicians who argue that some races, namely non-white, should have advantages over whites.

I'm sure that you must be proud of yourself, buffing up about "exposing" Dr. Duke, a man who has more cajones than the politically correct brainwashed masses.
 
Old 11-06-2009, 11:50 PM
 
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What attracts LA African Americans to the south....? This will be unpopular, but I don't care.

Imagine the most dangerous parts of LA. Now imagine that those people moved to the south eastern 1/4th of the country and setup a city every 100 miles emulating it. That's the south. Full of the most dangerous, crappy cities in America. There has been some gentrification, but pretty much every southern city beginning at Richmond is total crap.
 
Old 11-07-2009, 02:43 AM
 
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What attracts LA African Americans to the south....? This will be unpopular, but I don't care.

Imagine the most dangerous parts of LA. Now imagine that those people moved to the south eastern 1/4th of the country and setup a city every 100 miles emulating it. That's the south. Full of the most dangerous, crappy cities in America. There has been some gentrification, but pretty much every southern city beginning at Richmond is total crap.
It's not unpopular...try untrue.
 
Old 11-07-2009, 04:50 AM
 
Location: 30-40°N 90-100°W
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What's to "expose" about Dr. Duke?
Holocaust denial, white separatism, etc. Those were ongoing when Rickey did it and are now. She was a woman who died in poverty and obscurity after a life largely of helping people.

Also Duke's "Doctorate" is from a private university in the Ukraine that's been called "one of the most persistent anti-Semitic institutions in Eastern Europe" by the US State Department pre-Obama.
 
Old 11-07-2009, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Texas
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They want to be around a lot of blacks, and the South has tons of blacks.

Perfectly understandable, as it is for whites to want to be around other whites, but some people get all up in arms about whites wanting to look out for their group interests, or wanting to be around their own. Talk about insane thinking.
That's not the same thing.

Seriously, unless they live in a place like Detroit or inner DC, when would white people ever have to "look out" for other white people?

blacks, on the other hand can find themselves in cities where there's practically no trace of black culture. All the way to the point where they can't even find hair products or a decent salon/barber shop in the city they live. White people never have to deal with anything like that.
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