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Old 03-28-2010, 01:33 PM
 
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"I am bitter that my state was not ranked as being happy"

I am not surprised that these states were ranked as being unhappy by the way. This is why those states are generally not growing too much
machiavelli, did a New Yorker steal your girlfriend? Every time you reply to a thread is to put down New York.
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Old 03-28-2010, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Long Beach
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machiavelli, did a New Yorker steal your girlfriend? Every time you reply to a thread is to put down New York.

haha! He was referring to my comment though. But point well taken.
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Old 03-28-2010, 11:43 PM
 
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No surprise there. Overcrowded, polluted, bitter cold, extremely regulatory socialist nanny states with horrible unemployment and horrible people.

If people want to see the real America they have to head down South, where people are kind-hearted, the weather is nice, and you don't need a license to use the bathroom.

The Northeast is the armpit of America.
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Old 03-29-2010, 12:17 AM
 
Location: Long Beach
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No surprise there. Overcrowded, polluted, bitter cold, extremely regulatory socialist nanny states with horrible unemployment and horrible people.

If people want to see the real America they have to head down South, where people are kind-hearted, the weather is nice, and you don't need a license to use the bathroom.

The Northeast is the armpit of America.
Well that armpit gave birth to this nation, and held it together when the South decided slavery was more important than preserving the Union.

But trivial things, I know...

I guess real Americans are gun-toting, Bible thumbing Fundamentalists, right?

I'd rather live in the bitter cold than in a friggin sauna.
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Old 03-29-2010, 04:39 AM
 
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Well that armpit gave birth to this nation, and held it together when the South decided slavery was more important than preserving the Union.
It's funny how people in this region, especially those from Massachusetts and New York or so quick to put a positive spin on Lincoln's war of aggression against a legally and morally independent nation.

Slavery was important to an agricultural economy, as it has been since ancient Egyptian times. The Northeast was an industrial based economy and as such slavery outlived its usefulness. Pure and simple. Race had nothing to do with it. Lincoln despised blacks.

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But trivial things, I know...

I guess real Americans are gun-toting, Bible thumbing Fundamentalists, right?
I'm not going to get into stereotypes, but I sure as hell hope that real Americans aren't the people I've had the displeasure to meet in Massachusetts and NYC.

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I'd rather live in the bitter cold than in a friggin sauna.
Personal preference. I loathe snow, ice, and bitter temperatures, so I obviously disagree.
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Old 03-29-2010, 05:41 AM
 
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No surprise there. Overcrowded, polluted, bitter cold, extremely regulatory socialist nanny states with horrible unemployment and horrible people.

If people want to see the real America they have to head down South, where people are kind-hearted, the weather is nice, and you don't need a license to use the bathroom.

The Northeast is the armpit of America.
This is comedy!

Washington DC is the home base of our government and is considered a world class city by experts.

Philadelphia is considered "The Birthplace of America" and was the most important city in this country for many years. Also, The Declaration of Independence was signed in Philly and the city as a whole is filled with history.

New York City! Do I need an to explain? NYC is the financial, economic and cultural capital of our country and possibly the world.

The significance of Boston is traced back to the 1700's. Boston led the American Revolution and played a huge part in our countries rise along with Philly. Also, Boston is considered by many experts to be a world class city.

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Old 03-29-2010, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Long Beach
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It's funny how people in this region, especially those from Massachusetts and New York or so quick to put a positive spin on Lincoln's war of aggression against a legally and morally independent nation.

Slavery was important to an agricultural economy, as it has been since ancient Egyptian times. The Northeast was an industrial based economy and as such slavery outlived its usefulness. Pure and simple. Race had nothing to do with it. Lincoln despised blacks.



I'm not going to get into stereotypes, but I sure as hell hope that real Americans aren't the people I've had the displeasure to meet in Massachusetts and NYC.



Personal preference. I loathe snow, ice, and bitter temperatures, so I obviously disagree.
WOW?!?! Where to begin? where oh, where, to begin? The fact you even try to justify slavery, bothers me, immensely. What does it say about you?

Slavery in the Northeast was all but disbanded by the start of the Revolutionary War. But the 1780's it was ILLEGAL in the New England states. This is well before the start of industrialization. New Englanders were just as much farmers and fishermen as were Southerners. But we did the work ourselves, by the sweat of our own brow, not at the end of a whip.

Is that what you're taught in school....Lincoln's War of Aggression? Because, I'm so sure the Constitution that each state must ratify, states that this shall be a perpetual Union. The Civil War as it's known to the rest of the world was about preserving the Union, abolishing Slavery (you say Lincoln hated blacks, yet he wrote the Emancipation Proclamation...hmmm, yeah total hatred), and the immense culture divides between wealthy, urbanized, diverse North, and the rural, gentlemen farmers of the South.

Today Boston is a world class city, livable and wealthy. Considered by many to be the third most important financial center in the nation and along with San Francisco a leader in the high tech industry. Boston is one of the most important economic centers in the WORLD--no southern cities are in that category.

I'm so proud to state that it was citizens of Massachusetts and New England who egged on the Civil War and Abolition. Although, Lincoln's mistake was winning the War-the South has been dragging down this nation back to the 19th century, well since the end of the 19th century. Obese, highly uneducated, low paying jobs, bring down our national averages.

Please explain to me what's wrong with people from the Northeast/Mass/NYC? I'll say to you what I've written a dozen other times to people who think New Englanders are rude and arrogant:
"New Englanders by nature, are reserved, private, personal. We're still every bit Puritan as we are French, Irish, Italian or Haitian. We cherish our individual spirit, our drive towards a common humanity. It defined the Puritans, it defined John Adams, it defined those Yankee farmers who tilled the Connecticut River Valley, who fished off the coast of Gloucester, it defined the work of William Lloyd Garrison (the man who started Abolition), it defined the indomitable spirit of Calvin Coolidge during the roaring '20s, it defined the glamorous presidency of John Kennedy. As you can see that thing we cherish, that revere, that power of the individual follows us New Englanders through time."

Though I might disagree with theCity's comment about Philadelphia as the Birthplace of America...but that's for another thread. Boston is the Cradle of Liberty and the place where the American Revolution began-tea party, massacre, lexington, etc etc etc. On top of which the contributions of New England to American history, culture, society, psyche are so astonishing, amazing, sublime that if you wrapped your little head around them, it would spin so fast it would go back in time to 1957-but I bet you wouldn't need help in that department

Here is but a SHORT list:
The nation you live in, the virtue you call yourself an "American" started when a bunch a pissed off citizens in Boston and the surrounding towns said, "enough with this tyranny" a massacre, a tea party, a few dozen battles, great men such as John Adams, John Hancock, Paul Revere, Sam Adams, a Declaration and Constitution later, this nation was born. You, myself, Minnesotans, Texans, Floridians, Washingtonians, et al, get to partake in the vision those Bay Staters set forth 230 years ago, this month as a matter of fact. No other colony wanted to break with Mother England; it was Massachusetts-then its fellow New England colonies that lead the way. The snake on the "don't tread on me" flag, look at it, it lists the colonies as the snake, who's at the head? It’s no coincidence. The Massachusetts Constitution is the oldest written document of its kind in the world, it was written 8 years before the federal one. It formed the basis and foundation for our Federal system-three branches of government-separation of powers-even the phrase ‘We the people’ was lifted from its Preamble to use in the US one. Massachusetts was the first state to Industrialize, and was the wealthiest state in this nation up until a few decades ago. America's proud manufacturing tradition was born in the mill towns and cities of New England. That wealth which came with industrialization gave us America's first authors, poets, painters, sculptors, architects, essayist, novelists, newspapers, radio stations, etc etc etc. That wealth laid the foundation for our universities, which have produced more presidents, federal officers, Nobel Prize winners, innovations then anywhere in the world. Fathom that! The very fact you are sitting in front of a computer that was invented in Massachusetts. Engineers from Massachusetts put a man on the moon!! Shall I keep going? This doesn't include the events leading up to the Civil War, the events of the 17th century (1600s).

I implore you, to pick up a history book. Google Colonial America History, American Industrial Revolution, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Emily Dickinson, Louisa May Alcott, Nathaniel Hawthorne and Herman Melville. Read the novel on John Adams, heck watch the HBO special. Read the Intolerable (Coercive) Acts by the British parliament. Read the Massachusetts Constitution (written 1780), then read the US Consitution (1788), you'll notice the similarites. Study the paintings of Gilbert Stuart, the buildings of Charles Bulfinch, HH Richardson, Frederick Law Olmstead. Read the essays of Henry David Thoreau.

So get thee to a library!!! hell, www.wikipedia.org
Try some enlightenment.
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Old 03-29-2010, 10:55 AM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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I would think that unemployment rate would be a more tangible barometer of unhappiness than would sunshine. The former is a universal 'bad', and would impact everyone in the family negatively in some way. The latter, however, is subjective. I, myself, love sunshine, but there are just as many that like four seasons and cloud cover. That's why this list is not very grounded, scientifically speaking.

This is another one of those surveys that does nothing but accomplish in-fighting between groups of people.
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Old 03-29-2010, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I could live in 6 of those states without any hesitation and be totally happy.
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Old 03-29-2010, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Well that armpit gave birth to this nation, and held it together when the South decided slavery was more important than preserving the Union.
And New York City had absolutely NO qualms with financing and profiting from said slave trade.

They must teach a different sort of American History up there, with all sorts of convenient deletions. You can't erase history, no matter how hard you wish to.

Slavery in New York
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