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How is Oklahoma, the Texas Panhandle, the Texas Hill Country, and South Texas the same region? That makes no sense and is rather contrasting to the level of resolution you gave to the southeast.
The Great Plains are a steppe, so naturally they're going to be very boring with not that much diversity. However, I do admit that I was flawed in that area, mostly out of a lack of knowledge of that area; I did include the Escarpment Live Oak granite massifs/canyons of SW Oklahoma, though.
If I included the entire Eastern U.S., though, I would've drawn a line right above Wichita but below Kansas City to separate the Southern Great Plains from the Mid. The Oklahoma/Kansas border falls just short of that boundary.
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Do you have a source which depicts metro Atlanta being split down the middle into different climate zones?
Marietta is one of at least four principal cities of the Metro Atlanta, and it has subfreezing average lows during winter. Atlanta lacks that. A coldest month average low of freezing is seemingly a critical isotherm for some Deep South plants; I've noticed it for Southern Live Oak, Cabbage Palmetto and Spanish Moss, as they can grow in Memphis and the Norfolk/Virginia Beach areas but not the rest of the states they're in; they're also limited mostly to coastal and island regions in North Carolina and very small areas in Arkansas.
The Great Plains are a steppe, so naturally they're going to be very boring with not that much diversity. However, I do admit that I was flawed in that area, mostly out of a lack of knowledge of that area; I did include the Escarpment Live Oak granite massifs/canyons of SW Oklahoma, though.
The level of rainfall over your "southern great plains" varies from around 15" to 35". You don't think that makes a difference? If separating Southwest Oklahoma why not the Edwards Plateau / Texas Hill Country?
Sorry, I just find the idea that Lubbock, Austin, and Laredo are the in the same geographic/climatic/ecological subregion to be rather humerous, particularly given the level of detail elsewhere on your map.
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Marietta is one of at least four principal cities of the Metro Atlanta, and it has subfreezing average lows during winter. Atlanta lacks that. A coldest month average low of freezing is seemingly a critical isotherm for some Deep South plants; I've noticed it for Southern Live Oak, Cabbage Palmetto and Spanish Moss, as they can grow in Memphis and the Norfolk/Virginia Beach areas but not the rest of the states they're in; they're also limited mostly to coastal and island regions in North Carolina and very small areas in Arkansas.
Interesting that they are in slightly different USDA Plant Hardiness zones. I think it would take more than that to split the metro area into different subregions though. At most, the far northern exurban counties could be considered different enough to be in another subregion than the rest of the metro.
The American South
Georgia
South Carolina
Alabama
Mississippi
Tennessee
North Carolina
Louisiana
Arkansas (including Missouri south of U.S. Route 60)
Kentucky (minus Cincinnati suburbs, including Missouri Bootheel))
North Florida (north of Orlando)
South Virginia (from just north of Charlottesville on southward, including most of Shenandoah Valley and the part of West Virginia south of Charleston)
How is Texas not considered American South? And how is East Texas not considered Deep South but the entire state of Louisiana is when they share region’s together?
How is Texas not considered American South? And how is East Texas not considered Deep South but the entire state of Louisiana is when they share region’s together?
Because that forumer likes to claim Atlanta as the default capital of the South (as if Atlanta has anything to do with places like Virginia or Lousiana) and if Texas gets involved it brings Dallas & Houston into play. Their motive is so easy to read..
Because that forumer likes to claim Atlanta as the default capital of the South (as if Atlanta has anything to do with places like Virginia or Lousiana) and if Texas gets involved it brings Dallas & Houston into play. Their motive is so easy to read..
Yes! I totally mimicked you and had this kind of ludicrous mindset.
How is Texas not considered American South? And how is East Texas not considered Deep South but the entire state of Louisiana is when they share region’s together?
Its own nation: A wonderful, beautiful, and unique amalgamation of Texan, Tejano, Mexican, Southern, Midwestern, Western, and Southwestern.
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I adore Texas. Texas is a nation itself. I place Texas in a similar category as Poland, Spain, Romania, Italy, Ukraine, etc. Texas is the kind of place where a student can study abroad for a year, go deep, and only travel around Texas. Not including Texas in The American South has nothing to do with "Ewww, as if, stay away." It's about giving Texas the proper respect and prestige it deserves. Texas is not just a simple state hanging on to the western part of The American South. It is its own nation, its own region, its own culture--and yes, that includes many cultural elements, etc. of The American South mixed together in the amalgamation that is Texas.
Yes! I totally mimicked you and had this kind of ludicrous mindset.
You make no sense... bad shade just fyi..
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