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Old 10-03-2009, 12:26 AM
Location: Midwest
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List of few cons only

Los Angeles: A con- endless suburbs, less clean
San Francisco: A con- crime rate
Seattle: A con- distant from other large cities
Denver: B con- far from large bodies of water
Houston: D con- hurricane zones
Dallas: D con- no main attraction, lacks higher education; university level
Omaha: D con- less attractions
Minneapolis: C con- crime rate
Chicago: C con- crime rate
Indianapolis: D con- no main attraction, boring large city
Miami: C con- crime rate
New York: A con- commuting rates
Boston: A con- lack of good beaches?
Philadelphia: F
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Old 10-03-2009, 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MattDen View Post
Based on perception what grade (A-F) do you give these cities based on perception or if youve been to these cities which grade would you give them based on overall impression? Also what stereotypes based on what youve heard or if you were there what you say would say there is.

Los Angeles: D (pros: lots to do / cons: very expensive, dirty)
San Francisco B (pros: lots to do/ cons: very expensive, lots of problems, rude)
Seattle A (pros: safe, beautiful, interesting, mild/ cons: very expensive
Denver B (pros: downtown, cheap, friendly, fun/ cons: economy)
Houston C (pros:fun, cheap, economy/ cons: violent, dirty, rude, snooty)
Dallas D- (pros: cheap/ cons: rude, snooty, violent, dirty, violent, boring)
Omaha C- (pros: cheap/ cons: insular, sprawly, boring, isolated)
Minneapolis B- (pros: fun, recreation, interesting/ cons: economy, expensive
Chicago B- (pros: lots to do, neighborhoods/ cons: economy, expensive)
Indianapolis D- (pros: cheap/ cons: infrastructure, economy, boring
Miami D+ (pros: interesting, fun/ cons: very expensive, violent)
New York C (pros: interesting, infrastrucure/ cons: very expensive)
Boston B- (pros: interesting, fun/ cons: people too smart, expensive)
Philadelphia C (pros: interesting, cheap, good food/ cons: very violent)

Based on this it seems like I gave Seattle an A based on perception, I would probubly give Portland one also. I love Denver but just had to give it a B even though alot of people who havent been there seem to think its an A grade city. Denver up until very, very recently had a very, very crappy economy for several years.

I guess based on opinions I gave the worst grades to Indianapolis I have been there, Dallas and Miami dont seem very appealing either.

LA = A-

SF= C-

Seattle = B

Houston = A

Dallas = A-

Omaha = B

Minneapolis = B-

Chicago = A

Indianapolis = B-

Miami = D

NYC = F-

Boston = C+

Philly = B

I have actually visited all of these cities multiple times. The thing is that perception is either a positive or negative. Some people have never been to most of thes cities () and some have been to all or most. In the case of those that have been to very few, perception plays a huge role

For me, in many cases, perception has been MUCH different than the reality
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Old 10-03-2009, 08:55 AM
Location: Suburban Philly
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Cities i've been to are italicized.

Los Angeles: A
San Francisco B
Seattle B
Denver A-
Houston F (Houston is the city form of all things I hate - would still like to go)
Dallas C
Omaha B
Minneapolis B-
Chicago A
Indianapolis D
Miami B+
New York A-
Boston A
Philadelphia B+ (home city)
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Old 10-03-2009, 09:03 AM
Location: Portland, Maine
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Los Angeles- C Other than the ocean communites, not impressed.
San Francisco- A By far, the west coast's greatest city.
Seattle- B Very nice city. Great to visit in summer.
Denver- B Very clean city. My God--what they did to those mountains!
Houston- F Simply not impressed with any of it.
Dallas- F Ditto for this sprawl as above. A bit better than Houston.
Omaha- ? Never really spent any amount of time here.
Minneapolis-C Not impressed. Spread out.
Chicago- B Should probably give it an A although it has it's tough spots.
Indianapolis- D Not impressed.
Miami- C Really not to impressed other than the decos
New York City- A+ By far, the greatest city in the states.
Boston- A I love this town.
Philadelphia- B This is another one that should probably get an A-tough areas though.
Atlanta: D They have a subway.
Baltimore: B Underdog but very livable.
Bosie: D Not impressed. Sprawl.
Buffalo Well, it's cleaner than Detroit!
Charlotte:F Ugh!
Cincinnati: C I like it. Not to keen on the location though.
Cleveland: C Has potential. Love the public transit.
Des Moines:C I thought Des Moines was actually a very nice little town.
Detroit: F Nothing more can be said. To bad.
Kansas City:C Liked it but location, location, location.
Las Vegas: F Ugh!-Why when Tahoe is another option for Nevada gambling and fun.
Louisville: C I like it but location again.
Milwaukee: B Nice waterfront. Clean downtown.
New Orleans: B Can't beat it's great areas. Can't beat the crime and fiasco of other areas.
Oklahoma City: F Location and sprawl.
Orlando: D Well, they have Epcot and Disneyworld. Been there. Bought the T-shirt.
Phoenix: F Ugh. Just not a fan of desert sprawl.
Pittsburgh: C Should give it a B but I like Philly more.
Portland: B I still don't get it. It's a nice place but the hype is way overblown. Lemmings.
Sacramento:F Not impressed. Close to Tahoe though and the mountains.
St. Louis: C I like it but location.
Salt Lake City: D Do I really want to live with the Mormons? No.
San Antonio: C Better than Houston and Dallas.
San Diego: C It's a cleaner more boring Tijuana.
Tampa: C Ybor City and waterfront-nice. Rest-not so nice.
Washington D.C.: B Always fun. Lots of progress.
Wichita: ? Never been. What's it like?
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Old 10-03-2009, 10:31 AM
Location: Jacksonville,Florida
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Philadelphia-D+(dirtiest city I have ever driven through on I-95 on the East Coast)The Citicentre is the only thing that keeps it from getting an F.

Jacksonville-C-Dirty industrialized city,but next to Philly its clean.

Miami-B+-An awesome city on both sides of the bay,somewhat weak economy and low pay or I would give it an A- to this beautiful and clean city.

Atlanta-B+-Beautiful city but too landlocked for my taste,I love the bodies of water,

Louisville-B-a city on the move,beautiful neighborhoods.
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Old 10-03-2009, 11:17 AM
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Los Angeles- A
San Francisco- A
Seattle A
Denver- B
Dallas- B
Omaha- C
Minneapolis- B
Chicago- A
Indianapolis- D
Miami- B-
New York- A
Boston- A
Philadelphia- A
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Old 10-03-2009, 03:48 PM
Location: St Paul, MN - NJ's Gold Coast
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Los Angeles: D (pros: lots to do / cons: expensive, polluted, too much gang activity
San Francisco C (pros: good weather, nice urban planning/ cons: very expensive, drug infested)
Seattle B (pros: safe, unique, beautiful/ cons: expensive, gloomy
Denver C (pros: beautiful, great weather/ cons: overall location)
Houston C (pros: Beautiful women, economy, affordable/ cons: crime-ridden, weather)
Dallas D (pros: cheap/ cons: weather, location)
Omaha B+ (pros: cheap, great economy, beautiful/ cons: isolated, barren)
Minneapolis B (pros: Unique, interesting, affordable/ cons: Location, Weather
Chicago B (pros: Alive, great waterfront, neighborhoods/ cons: crime, expensive
Indianapolis D (pros: cheap/ cons: Location, dead, unattractive
Miami D- (pros: Beachfront/ cons: very expensive, crime ridden, filled with poverty, weather)
New York A (pros: Unique, location, weather, jobs/ cons: very expensive)
Boston A (pros: Unique, weather, waterfront, education / cons: very expensive)
Philadelphia C- (pros: rich in history, location, weather/ cons: crime, dirty, falling apart)
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Old 10-03-2009, 06:11 PM
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Los Angeles: B...Hollywood, Movie Stars.
San Francisco: A...loved it.
Denver: B+...never been, but it looks purty.
Houston: B...big and gritty with lots of nice folks.
Dallas: A...lots of money, glamour, and cowboy hats.
Omaha: D...never been, but I know a loud-mouth from there.
Minneapolis: C...brrrr
Chicago: A...this city has everything!
Indianapolis: A...beautiful vibrant downtown and that monument is impressive.
Miami: C...beautiful weather saves it.
New York: A...this city has everything plus more!
Boston: D...just have not ever had a good time there - nothing good to say about it.
Philadelphia: C+...big and gritty with lots of not-so-nice folks.
Atlanta: A...nice place, nice people.
Baltimore: A...love the mix of grit, history, and big-city feel.
Charlotte: C+...still growing up, pretty skyline.
Louisville: A...beautiful, underrated river city.
San Diego: B+...weather, beaches, Gaslamp Quarter
Detroit: D...nice skyline, classic buildings save it from an F.
Tampa: B...lovely Gulf Coast city.
Washington D.C.: A...one of my favorite U.S. cities.
St. Louis: C...a city on the rise to find its former glory.
New Orleans: D...too much grit and all that goes with it.
Buffalo: B-...underrated Great Lakes city, misunderstood.

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Old 10-03-2009, 06:57 PM
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Los Angeles C Dirty traffic terrible
San Francisco A++ I'd live there if I could afford to buy
Seattle Never been there, except the airport
Denver C Boring
Huston E One big Barrio
Dallas F Snooty Texans who think you should envy them
Omaha? Never been there
Minniapolis Never been there, except the airport
Chicago B Everything a City should have, Subways, Elevateds, trollies,
ethnic neighborhoods
Indianapolis D Boring
Miami Never been there
New York A same as Chicago plus
Boston B Typical East Coast City
Philadelphia A+ Home sweet home, not as nice as San Francisco but I grew up there
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Old 10-04-2009, 11:49 AM
Location: Toronto
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Los Angeles: B
San Francisco: A-
Seattle: B+
Denver: B-
Houston: C+
Dallas: B
Omaha: D
Minneapolis: B
Chicago: B+
Indianapolis: B-
Miami: C
New York City: A-
Boston: A
Philadelphia: B+
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