America's downtowns ranked by # of employess-how GA cities rank (Atlanta: 2013, city hall)

[Airforceguy]

I found this over at MetroJacksonville.com. It's a pretty comprehensive list of the 100 downtown employment centers in the nation.

#19-Atlanta-142,759. Definitley would have thought it would be higher, but not surprised considering the number of workers in Midtown and Buckhead.

#93-Savannah-30,949. I would have thought Augusta would have been number 2 in the state. Didn't realize this many people worked in downtown Savannah.

#94-Augusta-30,780. Not surprised this many people worked there. Kinda cool that it even beat a couple of larger cities like Greenville, Winston-Salem and Charleston in downtown employee population.

Here's a link to the report.
http://definingdowntown.org/wp-conte...townReport.pdf

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/art...mployees/page/

[WanderingImport]

Roughly 270 (difference in) jobs between the two cities of Augusta and Savannah is almost an irrelevant difference considering how close it is.

As far as Downtown Atlanta, are they including Midtown or is it just downtown? If it's JUST downtown, I'm not surprised at that number.

[nortonguy]

Originally Posted by Airforceguy

I found this over at MetroJacksonville.com. It's a pretty comprehensive list of the 100 downtown employment centers in the nation.

#19-Atlanta-142,759. Definitley would have thought it would be higher, but not surprised considering the number of workers in Midtown and Buckhead.

#93-Savannah-30,949. I would have thought Augusta would have been number 2 in the state. Didn't realize this many people worked in downtown Savannah.

#94-Augusta-30,780. Not surprised this many people worked there. Kinda cool that it even beat a couple of larger cities like Greenville, Winston-Salem and Charleston in downtown employee population.

Here's a link to the report.
http://definingdowntown.org/wp-conte...townReport.pdf

America's Downtowns Ranked by Number of Employees | Metro Jacksonville

I'm wondering if they included the Medical District..

Originally Posted by WanderingImport

Roughly 270 (difference in) jobs between the two cities of Augusta and Savannah is almost an irrelevant difference considering how close it is.

As far as Downtown Atlanta, are they including Midtown or is it just downtown? If it's JUST downtown, I'm not surprised at that number.

They separated the 142,000 jobs in downtown Atlanta from the 103,000 in Midtown Atlanta..

[nortonguy]

The article points out some very interesting things... Many people had to move into downtown Augusta lately..

Population
Midtown Atlanta: 77,535
DT Atlanta: 63,560
Savannah: 27,384
Augusta: 22,466

[DSMRE]

Originally Posted by Airforceguy

I found this over at MetroJacksonville.com. It's a pretty comprehensive list of the 100 downtown employment centers in the nation.

#19-Atlanta-142,759. Definitley would have thought it would be higher, but not surprised considering the number of workers in Midtown and Buckhead.

#93-Savannah-30,949. I would have thought Augusta would have been number 2 in the state. Didn't realize this many people worked in downtown Savannah.

#94-Augusta-30,780. Not surprised this many people worked there. Kinda cool that it even beat a couple of larger cities like Greenville, Winston-Salem and Charleston in downtown employee population.

Here's a link to the report.
http://definingdowntown.org/wp-conte...townReport.pdf

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/art...mployees/page/

Probably because Greenville has office buildings in different spots. Places like ICAR and the office parks/mid rises near the Haywood road area, etc. The white collar workforce is spread out. Downtown is a mixture of office, hotels, shops, restaurants, bars etc. Things like Brooks Brothers, Anthropologie, etc. Its' downtown is still very busy as it's also an tourist/entertainment area. Charleston is mainly tourism downtown. It's very busy, but mostly tourist related. Not sure about Winston Salem.

[-StarBright-]

Augusta's Medical District employs over 25,000 people,so I don't think it was included.

[Skitzy_]

Originally Posted by -StarBright-

Augusta's Medical District employs over 25,000 people,so I don't think it was included.

You're probably right.

[Mutiny77]

Originally Posted by Airforceguy

I found this over at MetroJacksonville.com. It's a pretty comprehensive list of the 100 downtown employment centers in the nation.

#19-Atlanta-142,759. Definitley would have thought it would be higher, but not surprised considering the number of workers in Midtown and Buckhead.

And Perimeter, which is the largest office district in metro Atlanta.

#94-Augusta-30,780. Not surprised this many people worked there. Kinda cool that it even beat a couple of larger cities like Greenville, Winston-Salem and Charleston in downtown employee population.

Not really surprised by Greenville and Charleston. North Charleston is moreso the business center of the Charleston area, and as mentioned earlier, Greenville's workforce is not as centralized. Also both cities have large manufacturing sectors. But Winston-Salem is a surprise though.

[Newsboy]

Did anyone read the report extensively? The definition of "downtown" is VERY much debatable, as the researchers explain in great detail throughout the first few pages. In fact, there are several different formulas for doing such, and they seem to have come up with a combination of them on their own to determine what "downtown" is for each city studied.

To their credit, they point out that simply drawing a one-mile circle around a city's "center point" (or as the illustration given, City Hall) isn't effective, because not only are many city halls not located in the dead-center of the downtown, but the downtown is affected by geography and other factors that will throw that metric off (The example given is that a one mile circle around NYC City Hall will include parts of Queens, Brooklyn and New Jersey ... obviously NOT "downtown."

Their solution, then, has been to take both Census tract population and employment data and then apply the "1-mile circle" rule on a city-by-city basis. This has created some rather odd definitions of what a "downtown" is, based on popular notions of such.

For example, their definition of DOWNTOWN ATLANTA stretches from North Avenue on the NORTH, to MORELAND AVENUE on the EAST, to BELOW GRANT PARK on the SOUTH, and JOSEPH LOWERY BLVD on the WEST!

MIDTOWN ATLANTA is defined as everything north of North Avenue, all the way to WEST WESLEY in Buckhead, and east of MORELAND AVENUE to as far west as Marietta Blvd.

Therefore, any discussion of this topic should be taken with a huge grain of salt. You're comparing apples to oranges here. As is the case with MANY MANY C-D discussions, one size does NOT fit all.

http://definingdowntown.org/

[Mutiny77]

Thanks for pointing that out, Newsboy. I did read at the end where certain cities had some say in delineating the boundaries of their downtown, but that wasn't the case for all of them.