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Old 04-06-2012, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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ANYWAYS BACK TO THE ORIGINAL question...

I see the trend being mentioned, however we have to consider a few things.

If we are just talking about politics.... most attention is typically given to swing states (even in primaries). Most Southern states, with the exception of Florida, are far from being swing states. In primaries there is also more attention given to states that vote early and states that happen to be voting around the time candidates drop out of the primary race altogether. Timing is key to public attention at large.

That aside talking about media portrayal as a whole... culturally ... not just news/politics. I think the problem is we, as well as N. Carolina, are newcomers. 50 years ago we are much smaller. All of the states originally listed were many of the United States' largest cities and central areas of industrial production (Ohio, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Massachusetts, New York, etc...). Traditionally they are the largest states.

Part of the problem I think we have is the stereotypes people have nationwide haven't changed fast enough to keep up with reality in a fast developing world.
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Old 04-06-2012, 08:33 PM
 
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No you hurled empty tired talking points and I informed you of what the media really is. It's quite clear from your statements that why you comment the way you do and why you failed to respond to my calling you out on it.
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Old 04-09-2012, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in America
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In fact, Georgia is also the largest state by area east of the Mississippi River.
Incorrect! Wisconsin is 23rd (65,498 sq mi) in area, Florida is 22nd (65,755 sq mi), and Michigan is 11th (96,716 sq mi) in area while Georgia is 24th (59,425 sq mi).


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Florida and South carolina get a lot of publicity and recognition.

Is that REALLY what you want???
I certainly wouldn't brag about my lovely former governor who ran off to Venezuela with his mistress leaving his wife and children here. I wouldn't want that if I were you either.



Georgia's population increase is relatively new one when compared with the Upper Mid-West and the Northeast. And being out of the media spotlight isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's like all attention is a good thing.....New York has a huge financial problem, a governor who paid for hookers across state lines, New Jersey had a gay governor with more cover up than Revlon, South Carolina had a governor who bailed on his family for some chickie in South America, California has a financial problem that's giving Greece a run for it's money, Nevada along with Arizona and Florida have more foreclosures than anyone else....parts of Michigan aren't too far off either. So why exactly would Georgia want to be in the news?

The news doesn't normally share lovely, heart warming stories unless they can find some spin or tie it to something else. It's not like they about puppies, rainbows, hearts, pink clouds, and adorable kittens. Almost all of the time, it's about how something bad, crappy, or tragic happened. If you've got a governor who can keep his pants on, be happy about that!
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Old 04-09-2012, 06:56 PM
 
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Incorrect! Wisconsin is 23rd (65,498 sq mi) in area, Florida is 22nd (65,755 sq mi), and Michigan is 11th (96,716 sq mi) in area while Georgia is 24th (59,425 sq mi).




I certainly wouldn't brag about my lovely former governor who ran off to Venezuela with his mistress leaving his wife and children here. I wouldn't want that if I were you either.



Georgia's population increase is relatively new one when compared with the Upper Mid-West and the Northeast. And being out of the media spotlight isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's like all attention is a good thing.....New York has a huge financial problem, a governor who paid for hookers across state lines, New Jersey had a gay governor with more cover up than Revlon, South Carolina had a governor who bailed on his family for some chickie in South America, California has a financial problem that's giving Greece a run for it's money, Nevada along with Arizona and Florida have more foreclosures than anyone else....parts of Michigan aren't too far off either. So why exactly would Georgia want to be in the news?

The news doesn't normally share lovely, heart warming stories unless they can find some spin or tie it to something else. It's not like they about puppies, rainbows, hearts, pink clouds, and adorable kittens. Almost all of the time, it's about how something bad, crappy, or tragic happened. If you've got a governor who can keep his pants on, be happy about that!
I just need to defend a quick factoid about Georgia many of us have always proudly said.

Georgia doesn't have many lakes.

Georgia has the largest amount of ---land area--- east of the Mississippi R.

Therefore in one major respect Georgia is the largest state East of the Mississippi, especially in terms of usable land... but perhaps not in boating or fishing .. hrmm (?)

Michigan is over 40% water, because of the great lakes. Florida and Minnesota are both about 17-18% water. Georgia is a whopping 2%


He isn't necessarily incorrect at all, but you have to look at these statistics and facts from all angles to get a true picture of the situation.
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Old 04-09-2012, 08:03 PM
 
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I certainly wouldn't brag about my lovely former governor who ran off to Venezuela with his mistress leaving his wife and children here.
Argentina
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Old 04-09-2012, 08:18 PM
 
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Argentina
Whatever. Wherever. Point was he was whoring around instead being with his family and skipping out on the people of South Carolina. The man should learn to keep his pants on.
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Old 04-10-2012, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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I just need to defend a quick factoid about Georgia many of us have always proudly said.

Georgia doesn't have many lakes.

Georgia has the largest amount of ---land area--- east of the Mississippi R.

Therefore in one major respect Georgia is the largest state East of the Mississippi, especially in terms of usable land... but perhaps not in boating or fishing .. hrmm (?)

Michigan is over 40% water, because of the great lakes. Florida and Minnesota are both about 17-18% water. Georgia is a whopping 2%


He isn't necessarily incorrect at all, but you have to look at these statistics and facts from all angles to get a true picture of the situation.
You beat me to it. If you count Great Lakes and other large bodies of water that are technically part of the territory of a state, then Michigan would actually be the largest state under that standard. By land area, Georgia is the largest.
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Old 04-10-2012, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Rome, Georgia
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Several people beat me to it. It is no slight on Georgia, but everyone knows how we will vote. I predict that Georgia will vote Romney, even though we don't really like him, he lost this state in the (R) primarys, and everyone knows I'm right. Doesn't make for sensational media. "There is nothing to see here, move along" applies.
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:19 PM
 
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I don't really like the way the media treats certain states in their political coverage. They tend to focus on a few states without regard to their true electoral influence or political trends.

For example, people continue to talk about Missouri as being a "swing state" which I think is already outdated. Obama won by 7 points nationally and still didn't manage to win Missouri. And the intense focus on swing states like Nevada and New Mexico is ridiculous when they only have 5 electoral votes. It also really really annoys me how they treat Pennsylvania as a swing state even though it hasn't voted Republican since 1988.

Georgia will have 16 electoral votes in this year's election, a very large number, and since Obama did surprisingly well there in 2008, the state should at least get a tiny bit of media coverage during this year's election, but the media likes to stick to their preconceived notions about a state's political leanings.

Before November of 2008, NC was seen as a reliably Republican state and the media didn't give any thought to Obama's efforts there until it became clear he would be competitive. Then when Obama won it the media acted like they knew all along that NC would be a swing state that year, trying to play catch up.
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Old 04-14-2012, 01:40 PM
 
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Before November of 2008, NC was seen as a reliably Republican state and the media didn't give any thought to Obama's efforts there until it became clear he would be competitive.
And once GA reaches that level, it will get more coverage. Otherwise, it's the same old story here.
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