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Old 05-27-2012, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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I would love high speed rail, don't get me wrong. But when the exorbitant cost of it can be rationalized vs. the cost of roads for long distance travel, your argument about more taxes will gain a shred of credibility.
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Google Maps driving directions From Huntsville, AL to Adairsville, GA looks like it would make an ideal Interstate Route.

Maybe then GA would extend it to Canton - Cumming - Buford creating that Outer Perimeter Northern Arc they have been talking about for decades.
Ugh. No. Please. No. No northern arc.
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Old 05-27-2012, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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Oh no...not this again...



Ugh. No. Please. No. No northern arc.

The lack of an easy east/west route across the high growth areas north of Atlanta is the one thing I can say the state of Georgia dropped the ball on as bad as a ball can be dropped. The argument that roads cause sprawl is totally debunked by the northern tier of suburban growth. They have sprawled without this road anyway. If it were in place, thru traffic could avoid Atlanta and ease the bottleneck where the main three interstate corridors of the southeast meet at one hub... downtown Atlanta... or its inner ring bypass. This worked 45 years ago, it doesn't work today.
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Old 05-29-2012, 07:42 PM
 
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I agree. The NIMBYs cried that sprawl would kill their way of life if the Northern Arc or Outer Perimeter would have been built. Well, the sprawl happened anyway and now there is no Arc, which would have solved a ton of regional traffic problems unrelated to the Arc itself. I bet the NIMBYs with their short-sighted mentality didn't predict that happening. It would have been much cheaper to do it back then too.

Besides. If the fear was sprawl, you can somewhat control sprawl by limiting entrance and exit points, which makes the road a true bypass. The more exits you have, the more homes and businesses pop up near said exits. The only exits/entrances could/should have been GA-316, I-85, I-985, GA-400, and I-75 (for a Northern Arc). Oh well, it's a moot point now unless the rest of the counties get on board with Gwinnett and connect with Sugarloaf Pkwy. I don't see it happening though.

It would sure have been nice to not share my commute down I-85 every morning and up I-85 in the evening with trucks who are "just passing through". It sure would be nice to go from Hall/Gwinnett to Cobb/Cherokee without having to go numerous miles South just to go back North.

But hey, that would have required some forward thinking and selflessness.
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Old 05-29-2012, 10:08 PM
 
Location: I-20 from Atlanta to Augusta
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Wow, lots of useful tips. I am from Augusta and I am studying urban planning. I actually thought of the idea after reading a wikipedia page on Huntsville AL. I figured you could run this from Huntsville thru the northern Atlanta metro area north then east of Athens then end in Columbia County. This could fix the traffic problems of multiple cities for years to come. I love the feedback and I will continue to plan and redesign.
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Old 05-29-2012, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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Wow, lots of useful tips. I am from Augusta and I am studying urban planning. I actually thought of the idea after reading a wikipedia page on Huntsville AL. I figured you could run this from Huntsville thru the northern Atlanta metro area north then east of Athens then end in Columbia County. This could fix the traffic problems of multiple cities for years to come. I love the feedback and I will continue to plan and redesign.
Tie it in with 520 at Augusta and then continue it on down to Savannah and you have a great, useful and much needed highway.
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Old 05-30-2012, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Atlanta Metro
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The only thing I ever cared about was Augusta or Columbus getting some sort of interstate going near the downtown, but then some folks bring up a topic about SPRWAL< not my problem
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