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Old 08-11-2012, 04:16 PM
 
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Old 08-11-2012, 04:21 PM
 
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I disagree.... How much is Asheville discussed in Columbia?? Posters from Greenville and Columbia don't speak positively of each other very often...

This thread didn't have Augusta in the title but was clearly about the city...
//www.city-data.com/forum/colum...pf-changs.html

Threads exist were people from SC mentioned Augusta first...
//www.city-data.com/forum/colum...-columbia.html
And that's as far as it goes as it pertains to Columbia in particular (you won't find any threads like that for Charleston and Greenville not started by an Augustan). I edited my previous post to acknowledge the little Columbia/Augusta interaction that exists, which mainly revolves around retail (which I also mentioned earlier). Even then, the vast majority of the comparisons will be with Charleston and Greenville. I remember not too long ago, The State newspaper published an article about Columbia's retail scene and some things that were lacking. Charleston and Greenville were of course mentioned, but Augusta wasn't mentioned at all--despite being closer and having some of the establishments mentioned in the article. But even this is starting to change since Columbia is starting to fill in some of the retail gaps (Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, etc.).

I never said anything about Asheville being mentioned in Columbia; I said you hear it being mentioned more in Greenville because it's closer, has some tourist connections, similar geographical setting, etc. Same with Charleston and Savannah. And we're not talking about whether the mentions are mostly positive or negative, but the fact that the mentions occur at all. And they do--quite frequently. Augusta? Very minimal. In Columbia, you hear about Greenville, Charleston, Charlotte, and Atlanta first before Augusta.

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Old 08-11-2012, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Closer than you think!
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Nortonguy...

I really don't care to debate with you because other than telling everyone what Augusta has, you clearly seem to be in denial or fail to look up information.

The truth is Augusta is the least dense 2nd tier city in GA.


Augusta has 647 ppl ppl square mile
Columbus has 880 ppl ppl square mile
Savannah has 1,802 ppl per square mile..
Macon has 1,655 ppl per square mile. (Consolidation will change the numbers next year)

Next time do your homework so you won't make yourself look silly.
Largest Cities in Georgia (2012) - Yahoo! Voices - voices.yahoo.com
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Old 08-11-2012, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Augusta, GA ''The fastest rising city in the southeast''
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I'm making myself look quote 'silly', but you're comparing Columbus(consolidated with the entire Muscogee County) and Augusta ( consolidated with the majority of the county)versus Savannah and Macon...

Land area
Augusta 302
Columbus 216
Macon 115
Savannah 74

Compare the population density of Augusta and Columbus in 216 sq. miles?
Compare Macon vs Augusta in 115?
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Old 08-11-2012, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Closer than you think!
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You clearly don't get it and you're still not making sense...

Augusta city limits is 302 sq. miles with a population of nearly 196,000.....
Columbus city limits is 216 sq miles with a population of nearly 194,000....
Macon city limits is 55 sq miles (until 2013) with population of 96,000
Savannah city limit is 74 sq miles with a population of 136,000

I don't know if you know this or not (apparently not) you can't say "Hey, lets compare part of my city limits to another cities to determine density". I'm so sorry pal it doesn't work like that....you don't even need a calculator to see that Augusta is the least dense out of all those cities.

You can't play with numbers because they dont lie....
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Old 08-11-2012, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Augusta, GA ''The fastest rising city in the southeast''
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This is exactly why developers rely on MSA's and not the city limits...

At first when you wanted everybody to believe Augusta was losing population you decided to use the Yahoo population estimates... Even though Yahoo showed Columbus and Savannah with a lesser population too, and Atlanta gaining 100k in one year.. Now in order to make Columbus look better you're using the 194k from the census estimates and not the 190k from Yahoo.. .

Either way it's not an fair comparison....
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Old 08-11-2012, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Closer than you think!
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As I stated...You are not making sense....Even if the population of Columbus is 190k....Augusta is still less dense...this isn't even about the population of either city pal. You claimed that my statement about Augusta being the least dense 2nd tier city is false...I've provided you with numbers to show that Augusta is CLEARLY the least dense....now you're twisting it back to population.

Come better than that...or learn how to comprehend.
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Old 08-11-2012, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Closer than you think!
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And that's as far as it goes as it pertains to Columbia in particular (you won't find any threads like that for Charleston and Greenville not started by an Augustan). I edited my previous post to acknowledge the little Columbia/Augusta interaction that exists, which mainly revolves around retail (which I also mentioned earlier). Even then, the vast majority of the comparisons will be with Charleston and Greenville. I remember not too long ago, The State newspaper published an article about Columbia's retail scene and some things that were lacking. Charleston and Greenville were of course mentioned, but Augusta wasn't mentioned at all--despite being closer and having some of the establishments mentioned in the article. But even this is starting to change since Columbia is starting to fill in some of the retail gaps (Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, etc.).

I never said anything about Asheville being mentioned in Columbia; I said you hear it being mentioned more in Greenville because it's closer, has some tourist connections, similar geographical setting, etc. Same with Charleston and Savannah. And we're not talking about whether the mentions are mostly positive or negative, but the fact that the mentions occur at all. And they do--quite frequently. Augusta? Very minimal. In Columbia, you hear about Greenville, Charleston, Charlotte, and Atlanta first before Augusta.
I have always considered Columbia, Greenville, and Charleston in the same tier....Augusta is getting there but not quite there yet....but if I say this I'm an Augustan Hater...LOL..
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Old 08-11-2012, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Augusta, GA ''The fastest rising city in the southeast''
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The statement about Augusta being less dense is false... You're comparing 302 sq. miles versus places with 216 and less...
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Old 08-11-2012, 11:37 PM
 
Location: Columbus,Georgia
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Density

Columbus-861.4/sq mi
Augusta-816/sq mi
Savannah-1,759.5/sq mi
Macon- 794.6/sq mi

Augusta is the second less density city. Macon is first.
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