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Old 01-13-2017, 11:30 AM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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Renee Unterman is absolutely correct in identifying this as a fairness issue. And kudos to her for having the courage to break ranks with her fellow GA Republicans over it.

‘Mimosa mandate’ would allow Sunday morning cocktails in Ga. restaurants | WSB-TV

I'll be at St. Marks saying a little prayer for you next Sunday, Renee. Cocktails to follow.
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Old 01-13-2017, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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Renee Unterman is absolutely correct in identifying this as a fairness issue. And kudos to her for having the courage to break ranks with her fellow GA Republicans over it.

‘Mimosa mandate’ would allow Sunday morning cocktails in Ga. restaurants | WSB-TV

I'll be at St. Marks saying a little prayer for you next Sunday, Renee. Cocktails to follow.
Amen, LD!!!
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Old 01-13-2017, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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I was talking to some people visiting Savannah tonight from Pennsylvania and Massachusetts. They were amazed by our liberal liquor laws (compared to the Northeast). Oftentimes it only takes a little perspective to make you realize we're in much better shape and not nearly as backward as many on here like to pretend we are.
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Old 01-14-2017, 06:33 AM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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I was talking to some people visiting Savannah tonight from Pennsylvania and Massachusetts. They were amazed by our liberal liquor laws (compared to the Northeast). Oftentimes it only takes a little perspective to make you realize we're in much better shape and not nearly as backward as many on here like to pretend we are.
That is so true. Try NJ on for size. The existence of the township system has resulted in some draconian blue laws there. We were dining at an Italian restaurant in Madison a few years ago and were told that we would have to send an emissary down the street to purchase some wine to accompany dinner; they, in turn, would charge a fee for uncorking it. I asked the liquor store operator about it and he said that only two restaurants within the township were permitted to serve liquor at any given time (the town was lousy with restaurants). I inferred that whoever owned the restaurants and the local liquor store was a person of some influence in the community...probably the same family. A similar situation existed in my cousin's Connecticut community.
Too bad there's no Bible Belt for them to blame up there; just good old-fashioned graft.
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Old 01-14-2017, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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That is so true. Try NJ on for size. The existence of the township system has resulted in some draconian blue laws there. We were dining at an Italian restaurant in Madison a few years ago and were told that we would have to send an emissary down the street to purchase some wine to accompany dinner; they, in turn, would charge a fee for uncorking it. I asked the liquor store operator about it and he said that only two restaurants within the township were permitted to serve liquor at any given time (the town was lousy with restaurants). I inferred that whoever owned the restaurants and the local liquor store was a person of some influence in the community...probably the same family. A similar situation existed in my cousin's Connecticut community.
Too bad there's no Bible Belt for them to blame up there; just good old-fashioned graft.
It's a little more complicated than that and based on population. In the 1940s, the New Jersey ABC determined that cities, towns and townships could have one license per 1,000 residents. That was changed to 1 for every 3,000 residents in the 1960s. I wonder who thought that was a good idea. Fortunately, or at the very least, old licenses were grandfathered. If a small town of 5,500 had 5, they didn't lose any, but couldn't get another until the population increased.

New Jersey's Liquor Laws Were Created for a Very Different Population - WNYC


Madison was probably a one horse, one bar town in the '40s through '60s and got stuck with one license for years. Little Madison got to add a license, the third, in 2012 when it finally had 10,000 residents. Woo Hoo!

Twp. Committee Approves Third Liquor License - Chatham, NJ Patch

If you had dinner at the Italian place on Main Street, I'm sure the liquor store two doors down got all of their business. There are at least two other liquor stores and a wine shop in town, but close is good when an employee has to stop what he's doing and run to the store.

While there's no Bible Belt, they used to have a Quaker cluster which is why towns like Haddonfield and Collingswood are dry.
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Old 01-14-2017, 07:26 PM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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It's a little more complicated than that and based on population. In the 1940s, the New Jersey ABC determined that cities, towns and townships could have one license per 1,000 residents. That was changed to 1 for every 3,000 residents in the 1960s. I wonder who thought that was a good idea. Fortunately, or at the very least, old licenses were grandfathered. If a small town of 5,500 had 5, they didn't lose any, but couldn't get another until the population increased.

New Jersey's Liquor Laws Were Created for a Very Different Population - WNYC


Madison was probably a one horse, one bar town in the '40s through '60s and got stuck with one license for years. Little Madison got to add a license, the third, in 2012 when it finally had 10,000 residents. Woo Hoo!

Twp. Committee Approves Third Liquor License - Chatham, NJ Patch

If you had dinner at the Italian place on Main Street, I'm sure the liquor store two doors down got all of their business. There are at least two other liquor stores and a wine shop in town, but close is good when an employee has to stop what he's doing and run to the store.

While there's no Bible Belt, they used to have a Quaker cluster which is why towns like Haddonfield and Collingswood are dry.
You pinpointed it to a 'T'. As I recall, it was exactly two doors down. Thanks for the very interesting synopsis!
Very charming town, BTW. I love that area of NJ.
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Old 01-14-2017, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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My brother used to live near Morristown. I thought it was a nice area. When I visited him, we spent most of our time in Manhattan, but we did go to the towns near where he lived.

Sorry for butting into the thread this way. Round of Mimosas for all of my friends!
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Old 01-15-2017, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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Today I had the $25 bottomless mimosas at The Hitch. Then we went to the $10 bottomless mimosas at the Ordinary.

My friend Jill was s***faced and had to be sent home in an Uber.
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