07-08-2017, 06:15 PM
Location: Michigan
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Hi everyone!
This is my very first post in this forum, but I have been searching advice that others have posted on these forums for a very long time. Sorry for the lengthy this post. My husband and I both grew up and lived in mid-Michigan for over 20 years before moving to the Tampa Bay area in Florida. We lived in Florida for just over 3 years before moving back to Michigan. While we enjoyed living in Florida, we realized that we would prefer to vacation there as the heat was just too much for us to handle. We missed being closer to our family as well.
I love Michigan a lot--scenery, beaches, people, UP, familiarity--but I suffer greatly from SAD (seasonal affective disorder) and have trouble tolerating freezing temperatures. Once Spring and Summer came, I felt like I was in paradise. While I would absolutely stay in Michigan for good if it were warm/mild throughout the year, I'm thinking we will thrive better in a state with milder Winters. It makes me sad at the thought of leaving Michigan and family again. However, there is so much more to explore and experience in other states. I can't help but think that there just may be another state out that that is similar to Michigan, but without similar Winters.
So here's the thing, I will be applying to various graduate programs for School Counseling by the end of this year (2017) and my husband and I were thinking this would give us the opportunity to explore another area during my graduate program before settling down in our careers and purchasing our first home. We've narrowed our choices down to University of Georgia in Athens, Old Dominion University in Virginia Beach, University of Virginia in Charlottesville, or just staying in Michigan and applying to WMU--despite the Winters.
Here are a few things about us that may help:
We love the beach, lakes, boating, hiking, amusement/water parks
Safe areas
We are in our mid/late-twenties
Not into the party scene
Ideal date night would be a movie and dinner--or going to the beach/lake
I am terrified of alligators
We love Summer, Fall, Spring--in that order-and mild winters
Sunshine for more than half of the year would be ideal
Would prefer to be somewhere that isn't completely flat
Someplace with similar scenery to Lake Michigan or the UP in Michigan would be awesome!
Husband will be in Nursing and I will be a School Counselor
Would prefer an area where we won't be sitting in traffic for too long
Thank you all for your help in advance and if you have any suggestions for areas other than the places I have named, feel free to mention them!
07-08-2017, 07:01 PM
Location: Atlanta
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Athens would be great. Athens is in the hilly piedmont region and you have the southern portions of the Appalachians and Blue Ridge just over an hour to the north. I've never heard of gators this far north. There are some snakes to worry about but you'll likely never have a problem.
Plenty of lakes and rivers around. Lake Lanier about an hour away, Hartwell about an hour away. Oconee probably even closer.
Winters are about 20 degrees cooler than Tampa and we can get cold and dreary, BUT, I find it far better than the awfulness I experienced the last two winters (and "springs") in southeastern Pennsylvania.
Summers can be bad but they won't be as bad or as long as Tampa.
Athens has a nice little downtown and is a quintessential college town. I know you don't care for the nightlife but it still provides things to do.
Athens/Clarke County can get sketchy but Oconee County/Watkinsville is adjacent and is the premier middle class area for the Athens metro.
You won't be that close to the beach, however. Not a day drive, you'd want to stay for a night or two to get your money's worth.
If Athens doesn't have what you need as a metro, just head on over to Atlanta. In half an hour you'll find yourself in metro Atlanta with the city proper being another 30+ minutes.
07-08-2017, 08:25 PM
Location: Michigan
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Athens would be great. Athens is in the hilly piedmont region and you have the southern portions of the Appalachians and Blue Ridge just over an hour to the north. I've never heard of gators this far north. There are some snakes to worry about but you'll likely never have a problem.
Plenty of lakes and rivers around. Lake Lanier about an hour away, Hartwell about an hour away. Oconee probably even closer.
Winters are about 20 degrees cooler than Tampa and we can get cold and dreary, BUT, I find it far better than the awfulness I experienced the last two winters (and "springs") in southeastern Pennsylvania.
Summers can be bad but they won't be as bad or as long as Tampa.
Athens has a nice little downtown and is a quintessential college town. I know you don't care for the nightlife but it still provides things to do.
Athens/Clarke County can get sketchy but Oconee County/Watkinsville is adjacent and is the premier middle class area for the Athens metro.
You won't be that close to the beach, however. Not a day drive, you'd want to stay for a night or two to get your money's worth.
If Athens doesn't have what you need as a metro, just head on over to Atlanta. In half an hour you'll find yourself in metro Atlanta with the city proper being another 30+ minutes.
Thanks, sedimenjerry, for your advice! I definitely could handle a Winter with temps 20 degrees cooler than Tampa. I have heard that Lake Lanier is very nice and great for boating. We'd love to be close to it so we can enjoy it more often if we end up moving to Georgia. We've been to Gwinnett County--Dacula and Lawrenceville--and found those areas to be nice. We did, however, just visit for the weekend. We will be taking a vacation there to visit friends at some point this year. We'd also consider looking into Braselton, Sugar Hill or Suwanee. Do you have any opinions on those cities in particular? I understand that there are regular job postings for school counselors in those areas. Thank you again for the help!
07-08-2017, 10:22 PM
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Gwinnett is probably one of the best counties to work in GA for your profession and Suwanee is nice but quite far from what I remember from Athens. Are you planning on doing online classes or perhaps hybrid classes?
07-08-2017, 11:20 PM
Location: Michigan
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Gwinnett is probably one of the best counties to work in GA for your profession and Suwanee is nice but quite far from what I remember from Athens. Are you planning on doing online classes or perhaps hybrid classes?
Hi DreamerD! I too think that Gwinnett County would be the best area for school counseling. I would have to live in Athens for the first year, at least, of my program. UGA partners with Athens and Metro Atlanta school districts for the internship portion, which occurs during the second year, so I may have the opportunity to move to Metro Atlanta at that point. Once I finish my program, we will then be able to purchase a home near the school I will be working at--in Gwinnett County, hopefully. Fortunately for my husband, he will be in the nursing profession and will have more options for work in the area
07-08-2017, 11:33 PM
Location: Seattle, WA
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Georgia is a very warm weather state, but, even in the summer, it's often tolerable by most people's standards, because clouds roll in and out all year, and temps go up and down. Last couple of days here it's been really nice, between the storms.
Atlanta area is a couple of degrees cooler year round than Athens, because of the higher elevation. With that said, they're very similar, and Athens has been known to get a few inches of snow in the winter occasionally, when cold air systems push down from the western Carolinas.
But winter anywhere in the southeast is going to be an absolute cakewalk compared to Michigan. You'll definitely love winter.
Virginia is on the border really, between the southeast and northeast winters. Charlottesville will often be well above freezing in the daytime in January, but you'll usually see about 15" of snow spread out across the winter. Whereas north GA averages 2" or 3" snow a year, and most years recently just basically flurries.
07-08-2017, 11:39 PM
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Good luck! I grew up in mid-michigan too, but moved to ATL in '96. I would never move back (hate winter too) but love to visit MI in the summertime.
07-09-2017, 06:18 AM
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Hi DreamerD! I too think that Gwinnett County would be the best area for school counseling. I would have to live in Athens for the first year, at least, of my program. UGA partners with Athens and Metro Atlanta school districts for the internship portion, which occurs during the second year, so I may have the opportunity to move to Metro Atlanta at that point. Once I finish my program, we will then be able to purchase a home near the school I will be working at--in Gwinnett County, hopefully. Fortunately for my husband, he will be in the nursing profession and will have more options for work in the area
Sweet. Sounds like a plan. Good luck.
07-09-2017, 06:46 AM
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Athens is a lot like Ann Arbor, only smaller.
07-09-2017, 07:17 AM
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Pros: Better economy, very mild winters, affordable (not as affordable as Michigan), ATL and Athens have a lot of things to do.
Cons: It's hot and humid in ATL in the summer. It's not as bad as Florida, but it's close. ATL is more "Go Go" and fast paced compared to Michigan. Traffic.
You might like Denver. It's more Mid West like, has milder winter than Michigan, and has a good economy. The downside is it's not very affordable, dry, and isolated from the rest of the US. Just a thought.
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People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)