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Old 05-10-2019, 11:55 AM
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Good riddance. Quality over quantity any day. And I seriously doubt any company is going to make a decision based on this anyways. Companies are driven by shareholders, who are driven by money. If it makes the most financial sense to film here, they will despite any kind of outrage.
Right. There really hasn't been any significant blowback anywhere. North Carolina never slowed down after their religious liberty bill initially passed. People and companies mostly make decisions that work best for them. For example, Millennials, despite all the hype, are still choosing suburbs over inner cities pretty similar to prior generations. And Chick-Fil-A is doing better than ever.

And on this particular issue, the country is split pretty much 50/50. And many pro choice people still think abortion is morally wrong.

 
Old 05-10-2019, 11:56 AM
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The mistake is thinking they care.

There was a time when Republicans cared about governing, cared about the actual people that elected them. That's gone now. They are professional trolls. They exist solely to enrage "the left" for kicks. They do not pursue any policies that help the rural, uninformed voters that elected them. They don't care about jobs leaving the state, or salaries decreasing. They don't care if the residents of their state have healthcare, or housing, or any safety nets at all. They are the Cersei Lannisters of America, sneering down at their people and using them in whatever way neccesary to keep power. They don't care if the people hate them, because they hate the people too.

Republicans won't be bothered bt this stunt at all. If anything, they hope more companies leave so higher educated people leave and the economy halts, stopping the immigration of educated Democratic voters from other states. Most people mention "becoming Mississippi" as a terrifying outcome, Republican politicians would love nothing more as it would solidify their power and allow them to continue setting up 18th century laws without backlash.
Speaking of trolling...
 
Old 05-10-2019, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Columbus, GA and Brookhaven, GA
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The mistake is thinking they care.

There was a time when Republicans cared about governing, cared about the actual people that elected them. That's gone now. They are professional trolls. They exist solely to enrage "the left" for kicks. They do not pursue any policies that help the rural, uninformed voters that elected them. They don't care about jobs leaving the state, or salaries decreasing. They don't care if the residents of their state have healthcare, or housing, or any safety nets at all. They are the Cersei Lannisters of America, sneering down at their people and using them in whatever way neccesary to keep power. They don't care if the people hate them, because they hate the people too.

Republicans won't be bothered bt this stunt at all. If anything, they hope more companies leave so higher educated people leave and the economy halts, stopping the immigration of educated Democratic voters from other states. Most people mention "becoming Mississippi" as a terrifying outcome, Republican politicians would love nothing more as it would solidify their power and allow them to continue setting up 18th century laws without backlash.
Wow you’re ignorant. Might be the dumbest post yet on City-Data.
 
Old 05-10-2019, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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And on this particular issue, the country is split pretty much 50/50.
If 50% of women are opposed to abortion, then, they don't have to get one. Stop trying to force what's ultimately an illogical, religious based position onto the other half of women, who can make their own minds up about their own lives and bodies, based on rational thought about what exactly constitutes a person and rights and morality.

And men shouldn't be involved in this at all. This issue really shouldn't need to be such an issue- it should be a personal matter. But yet Georgia's Republican politicians always find a away to make these cultural differences an issue for everyone and an issue that hurts the state.

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And many pro choice people still think abortion is morally wrong.
I don't know anyone with this position. Seems to me that would make no sense.
 
Old 05-10-2019, 12:14 PM
 
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I don't know anyone with this position. Seems to me that would make no sense.
You don't? It makes perfect sense. Just because you think something is morally wrong doesn't necessarily mean you think it should be legislated that it's a criminal offense.

Many people think lying, cheating on your spouse, and a slew of other things are morally wrong. That doesn't mean they support outlawing these things.

Same thing here. Also, many people are pro-choice because they don't want women to subject themselves to back alley abortions, even if they believe what they are doing is morally wrong. They still have the right to do it safely.

I could go on and on, but I think many, many people are personally and morally against abortion, but wise enough to not let that stop them from being pro-choice.
 
Old 05-10-2019, 12:41 PM
 
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You don't? It makes perfect sense. Just because you think something is morally wrong doesn't necessarily mean you think it should be legislated that it's a criminal offense.

Many people think lying, cheating on your spouse, and a slew of other things are morally wrong. That doesn't mean they support outlawing these things.

Same thing here. Also, many people are pro-choice because they don't want women to subject themselves to back alley abortions, even if they believe what they are doing is morally wrong. They still have the right to do it safely.

I could go on and on, but I think many, many people are personally and morally against abortion, but wise enough to not let that stop them from being pro-choice.
Very wise and well said, ATLTJL.
 
Old 05-10-2019, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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That’s understandable, ATLTJL. But, I just think a fetus is either a person or it isn’t (and, it definitely isn’t). It’s either a sentient being that should be protected, or not one. So I just find it a bit difficult to reconcile, ‘it’s murder or it’s kinda-murder but hey, that’s your choice’.

I’m pro-choice because abortion is not morally wrong because unborn babies are not people. They eventually would be, but they are not yet. Potential of X is not X. Personhood is something that gradually develops in humans over years of infancy and childhood. So birth is the best thing we really have as far as a cut off point.

If someone wants to believe differently, they can do that. But the government needs to be secular and needs to be for everybody. We should not bring religious beliefs into our laws.
 
Old 05-10-2019, 12:55 PM
 
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David Simon, creator of "The Wire" and "The Deuce"

The same guy that employs James Franco who has multiple allegations of sexual assault against him? That guy?


Nothing is going to happen here because this unconstitutional law will never go into effect.


As far as comparisons to North Carolina go what Hollywood think their NC bathroom boycott was so successful to get companies to leave that they forget to tell you that incentives were dissolved about 6 months prior.


This part was buried nobody is going anywhere. Stop with the hysteria.





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The Motion Picture Association of America, which represents the major studios, has taken a more cautious approach, however, saying that it is 'monitoring developments'. “Film and television production in Georgia supports more than 92,000 jobs and brings significant economic benefits to communities and families,” said MPAA senior VP communications Chris Ortman in a statement to The Hollywood Reporter. “It is important to remember that similar legislation has been attempted in other states, and has either been enjoined by the courts or is currently being challenged. The outcome in Georgia will also be determined through the legal process. We will continue to monitor developments.”
 
Old 05-10-2019, 01:15 PM
 
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The bigger issue is if Georgia faces no economic reprecussions from passing this extremist legislation, it will give them a mandate to try and throw every far-right religious bill at the wall and see what sticks, potentially to the detriment of the Constitutional Rights of people in the state.
 
Old 05-10-2019, 01:23 PM
 
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The bigger issue is if Georgia faces no economic reprecussions from passing this extremist legislation, it will give them a mandate to try and throw every far-right religious bill at the wall and see what sticks, potentially to the detriment of the Constitutional Rights of people in the state.



You realize this 'law' isn't changing anything. It isn't going to stand up. It might as well not exist.
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