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Old 05-14-2019, 05:00 AM
 
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Taxes are too high in Georgia to attract Northeastern or Californian tax refugees... only Florida and Texas do that. The only state tax rate that works since the federal SALT reforms is 0%.
There still is a benefit - the kind of house you’d get in the Atlanta suburbs is much less expensive, with a far smaller property tax burden, than what you’d get in the NYC suburbs. Twice the house, half the property taxes.

Income tax is still less in GA than either NY or CA.

 
Old 05-14-2019, 06:44 AM
 
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Taxes are too high in Georgia to attract Northeastern or Californian tax refugees... only Florida and Texas do that. The only state tax rate that works since the federal SALT reforms is 0%.
State income taxes in Georgia aren't really that high. Property taxes in Texas are also much higher than they are in Georgia, not sure about Florida but I'd imagine property taxes there are probably still a good bit higher than Georgia and relative to NY or CA property taxes in Georgia are definitely much less.
 
Old 05-14-2019, 06:52 AM
 
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There still is a benefit - the kind of house you’d get in the Atlanta suburbs is much less expensive, with a far smaller property tax burden, than what you’d get in the NYC suburbs. Twice the house, half the property taxes.

Income tax is still less in GA than either NY or CA.
True, but in the NYC suburbs, you are an hour from the city with everything in the world culturally.

Rich people are moving to Florida & maintaining a 2nd home in cities & a 3rd home in the mountains. Look up Banner Elk in Boone NC. I know multiple people who own property there who live in Florida but go to the mountains during the summer.

What attracts people are to Banner Elk is the summer climate & the 8k foot paved runway 10 minutes away from their door.
 
Old 05-14-2019, 08:37 AM
 
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And unfortunately, I think more and more folks are becoming more libertarian
Why unfortunate? And what exactly, based on your dismissive comment, is your definition of a Libertarian?
 
Old 05-14-2019, 01:41 PM
 
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True, but in the NYC suburbs, you are an hour from the city with everything in the world culturally.

Rich people are moving to Florida & maintaining a 2nd home in cities & a 3rd home in the mountains. Look up Banner Elk in Boone NC. I know multiple people who own property there who live in Florida but go to the mountains during the summer.

What attracts people are to Banner Elk is the summer climate & the 8k foot paved runway 10 minutes away from their door.
There are many people on Long Island who never even go into Manhattan. Or do so very infrequently. Once you have kids the lure of NYC is overshadowed by the desire to have a patch of grass and better schools in the suburbs.

Once you get over the desire for good bagels and pizza you’ll find that quite a few people would move away except for family. The COL is getting insane.
 
Old 05-14-2019, 03:19 PM
 
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I think this paragraph is so true. And unfortunately, I think more and more folks are becoming more libertarian, yet both political parties are become more "left" and "right". I only wish that we had a third party that was more "center". There are a lot of folks like me who are so conservative fiscally that it would make your head spin, but socially a tad left of center. I don't agree with either party in any whole fashion....

The only reason the US is "stuck" in a 2-party system is because of money/influence. There is no legal limit on parties, no reason we couldn't have 500 different parties (or 5,000, or 5,000,000). It's just that thoe 2 parties have certain power, which brings in money and influence.... which they ply to keep their power.


I wish we had smarter citizens who could see thought this kind of BS, and were willing to hold their elected officials accountable for their actions. Then "parties" wouldn't mean anything.





Anyway, I was raised in Wyoming... you want to talk about conservative? Without changing my position on any beliefs, the whole political scene has shifted and I'm left standing in agreement (majority at least, not 100%) with a different political party than I had agreed with several decades prior. I have no doubts that by the end of my life, I'll see at least the same movement, if not more, on the political spectrum. I don't support any one "party", I support individuals who's beliefs most closely align to mine ~ it's the only way I can maintain any sanity in todays political environment....
 
Old 05-18-2019, 06:33 AM
 
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Taxes are too high in Georgia to attract Northeastern or Californian tax refugees... only Florida and Texas do that. The only state tax rate that works since the federal SALT reforms is 0%.
Yes and no.

While Georgia has an income tax, it makes up for it with much lower property taxes than FL and TX.
 
Old 05-18-2019, 06:38 AM
 
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I was raised a Democrat but not as we know it today. When I was young and when my parents were young the Democrats were the Conservative party of the south. Since the 1960’s everything got screwed up and now it’s the a Republicans that are the party of South. I’m personally a libertarian conservative on most issues. Neither of the major parties represents my views.
Fiscally and economically, Democrats back in the era you describe were also way more liberal (pushing "Socialist" policies such as Food Stamps, Medicaid, Medicare, SS, etc.) than they are today.

They were know as New Deal Democrats, LBJ being the last president of this coalition before it become the economically and fiscally conservative party of the Clintons.
 
Old 05-18-2019, 07:31 AM
 
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Fiscally and economically, Democrats back in the era you describe were also way more liberal (pushing "Socialist" policies such as Food Stamps, Medicaid, Medicare, SS, etc.) than they are today.

They were know as New Deal Democrats, LBJ being the last president of this coalition before it become the economically and fiscally conservative party of the Clintons.
Not THOSE Yankee new dealer Democrats ... I was raised as Southern Dixie Democrat who made Barry Goldwater look left wing.
 
Old 05-18-2019, 08:26 AM
 
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Not THOSE Yankee new dealer Democrats ... I was raised as Southern Dixie Democrat who made Barry Goldwater look left wing.
I'd rather deal with a Yankee Democrat than the old Southern Dixie Democrats.
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